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Episode 6 – Rapid Fire

Episode 6 - Rapid Fire

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In Episode 6 we blast you with an assotment of great things in Tampa Bay!

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Kyle Sasser: Hello and welcome to Great Things Tampa Bay, the podcast about great eats, great places and great people in the greater Tampa Bay area. I’m your host, Kyle Sasser from Tampa Bay. I’m a realtor and all around good bloke. This is episode six, “Rapid Fire” and I’d like to thank you for inviting me along on your commute to work, or maybe you’re mowing the grass and thinking about what you’d like to do with the rest of your day, and so you’re giving us a listen to find out all the cool stuff that’s going on in the area and for that, I thank you. I’d like to invite you to come talk to me on social media. Just go to our website, greatthingstb.com and then click on the “Get Social” up at the top and there you’ll find links to all of our social profiles. You can go there and give us all the likes, shares, comments, pros and cons. What you like, what you don’t like and all that good stuff. Please go there and let me know.

Segment one, rapid fire. So I thought I would do this a little bit different than the other previous episodes. You know, kind of get in a rut and if it’s one things I don’t like, it is a rut so I’m trying to shake things up a little bit. So our previous episodes have basically gone like, review a restaurant, then some personal stuff and then end off with something fun and this time I thought we would do something a little different where I would just cover a wide variety of things to do in Tampa Bay and some of these are restaurants, some of these are places to go, some of these are parks. And you can just kind of pick and choose if there’s something that interests you. I’m gonna put what links I can on the show notes so you can go there for more information on our website, greatthingstb.com. Probably gonna be covering a few of these in more detail in later episodes, but I thought it would be nice just to cover a lot of these, instead of having to wait for subsequent episodes to come out. So without further ado, and I’m just going to go through these. You might hear me shuffling papers here and there, but basically I’m gonna read it off. Maybe give a quick blurb if I’ve been there or if I have any thoughts on it, and then just mosey on along. And I’m not gonna spend a lot of time on any one of these, but as I said, I’m probably gonna be covering some of these in later episodes, so please subscribe.

So over in Tampa we have the Oxford Exchange. That’s downtown by the University of Tampa. That’s a really cool building there. They have like a restaurant, book store, coffee house. The place is absolutely awesome and is definitely worth a trip. Arcades. There are some arcades around. The Lowry Parcade and Tavern is pretty cool and then there’s another Replay Museum up in Tarpon Springs. Personally, I really wanna go to these. Supposedly there, the Replay Museum in Tarpon Springs is a museum of over 100 pinball games, video games from the past. You know, old arcade rat like myself, that kind of gets me excited. Next up is the Sponge Docs in Tarpon Springs. Surprisingly I have lived here my entire life, I have never been. My lovely wife’s brother has invited us on a couple of occasions and we just haven’t made it up there yet. I don’t know what they have, I don’t know if it’s just like people selling bins of sponges or if there’s whatever, but yeah, definitely a cool place to go from my understanding, but I have not been yet.

Next up we have the various markets that go on around both in St. Pete and Tampa. Specifically, the Saturday Morning Market in downtown St. Petersburg. Typically that’s down by the Rowdy Stadium. Then over in Tampa they have the Hyde Park Village Market which happens on the first Sunday of each month. And the Hyde Park one is really cool because they shut down the entire street and it’s very festive. So there’s music going on, there’s people milling around, there’s all sorts of vendors and cool stuff to see. The St. Petersburg one is awesome as well and that one happens pretty much every weekend and they have cool vendors. I bought a hat there once which was pretty sweet.

I finally found like a, well, it’s a straw hat, but it’s not of the hayseed variety. It’s one of the more stylish like going to the horse races hats. They have other cool things there, headbands and the normal crafts, knick-knacks. They also have exquisite local produce and cheeses, things of that nature. So definitely worth it. It’s definitely a good way to spend half of a day or a quarter of a day. And in that same vein we also have the First Fridays in St. Petersburg and then the Fourth Friday in Tampa and I’m not sure what it is with Fridays and festivities, but for some reason we really love that in this area. So First Friday in St. Petersburg and then Fourth Friday over in Tampa. You go there, it’s more of an adult sort of thing. I wouldn’t really put that for kids, but yeah, it’s fun stuff. The one in Tampa is a little interesting because they do also do free admission to many of the museums down there, so a little added bonus there.

Next up we have the Manatee Viewing Center which is down over in Apollo Beach. The big old power station there, Big Ben Power Station there, there’s a platform you can go and view the manatees there. That usually is a little more of a winter time sort of thing. The manatees nowadays are kind of out and about doing their thing. But once the chill gets in the air and the water temperatures go down, the manatees come up into the local rivers, springs and over by the power plant, that’s where they discharge the water over there. So it’s a little warmer, the manatees like to go there. I would save that one more towards let’s say November.

Camping. So if you like camping there’s a bunch of great places to go around here. Just ones off the top of my head we’ve got Hillsborough River State Park which is cool. So the interesting thing about the Hillsborough River State Park, two things that I know. One, is that the Spanish, whenever they came into Tampa Bay, when they put the little boats in the water and they went up the river, that was pretty much as far North as they got. They couldn’t get past, there’s actually a cascade of rapids there and that’s how far they made it. The other interesting thing was that the tannic waters of the Hillsborough River which has kind of that brown tint to it was actually highly prized to make tea with by the English from my understanding. So they would actually barrel the stuff up and ship the stuff back to Jolly Ol’ and brew up some Earl Grey Hot. I’m not sure if I would recommend doing that currently, but you know, just kind of a historical thing.

Other cool places, Lithia Springs which is out south of Brandon. One of the largest springs in the area. A great place to go, swim, you can canoe down the river there as well. Over here in Pinellas County we have Fort De Soto which is a great little gem. It’s a little tough to get in there on short notice, however a little bird has told me that they do do cancellations, so if you check the week of, kind of early mornings, say like 9:00 or 10:00 sometimes you’ll luck out and a spot will have opened up. And then if you wanna head a little bit further North there’s the Chassahowitzka which is a really cool place. My wife and I went there last year. A bunch of springs to view and swim in and it’s on a real pretty spring run and to get there it’s basically you take the Sun Coast Parkway all the way North until it ends and then you head left. And that’s pretty much where it’s at. Those are kind of my favorite local camping spots. I’m sure there’s more, so if you know any, please let me know. We have Lettuce Lake Park which is up by USF. It’s a real nice local park with some boardwalks, viewing tower. You can see some pretty interesting things there on occasion.

Tampa Theater which I’m sure is pretty obvious, but if you’ve never been there it’s definitely worth a trip. Pretty cool, it’s one of the original Mediterranean old-timey theaters. The chairs aren’t particularly comfortable, I mean it’s not a super IMAX with all the cup holders and the rumble seats and all that stuff, but it’s a great place to see a show or an even better place to see a concert if someone you happen to like is gonna be playing there. I would definitely recommend going and checking it out. They also offer tours. I know they upgraded the electrics recently. One of my favorite parts was always seeing the old electrics, like the electrical breakers out of cartoons where it’s like the knife edge where they came down and all the sparks…fun stuff, fun stuff.

So next up is the Thai Temple which is the Buddhist place down on Palm River Road. It’s a little to the East of Ikea and then on the South Side of the Palm River there. They do a tremendous Sunday Morning Market there. Great food, I believe that is from 8:30 to 2:30 every day, but I would recommend getting there early. Sometimes the food runs out and all that, but everything is authentic and delicious. They also have a great selection of plants, orchids and all that good stuff. Definitely, definitely worth the trip there. And, you know, you don’t have to be Buddhist to go there. They welcome all types.

Next we have Edison which is one of my favorite restaurants over in Tampa Bay. They have a real unique take on every one of their dishes. Definitely recommend that. Also recommend checking out O’Reilly’s Game. Even if you’re not a tremendous soccer fan it’s definitely worth going to the game just for the atmosphere. People jumping, dancing around. There’s a whole section of the stadium there that’s called Ralph’s Mobs and if you’re part of that, thank you for the liveliness to the games that you bring to the games, but basically there’s this whole section of stand there and they jump around, beat on drums, sing songs for the entire length of the game. Brings a lot of energy that’s missing from Bucks games or the baseball games. So definitely go check it out. As a bonus, tickets are relatively inexpensive. They’re $25 apiece if you buy like two or three at a time, definitely check it out.

A couple other fun things to do would be to canoe the Hillsborough River or Lithia which I kind of mentioned earlier. Pretty much like a half day ordeal. And it can be an ordeal depending upon the weather and how the mosquitoes are doing, so you definitely wanna call the canoe company and make sure that everything’s good. A lot of times if we don’t have a lot of rain, especially on the Lithia River, you’ll have to get out and push the canoe or pull it over rocks and it gets a little tiring. Bonus point for Lithia River though is that you can find shark’s teeth there if you happen to know where to look. So always be nice and ask your canoe provider for the best place to look for shark’s teeth would be. Hillsborough River is a little more quiet, a little more serene. It’s not as hectic as the Lithia River is. The Lithia is usually a little bit busier. Definitely a lot more alligators on the Hillsborough River. Once you get past Morris Bridge there, the mosquitoes can get dense, so make sure to pack your bug repellent.

A few other good restaurants, I’ll just rattle off here. Sea Critters out on Pass-A-Grille, absolutely delicious. Give it a try. That’s absolutely delicious, can’t recommend the chicken and waffles enough. Restaurant BT which is also right over there has some of the absolute best Vietnamese-French fusion in the area that I’ve had. Yeah, I think that’s enough of my spots. That should give you enough coverage to where you can pick something out there that you like. Just pick one of them and go do it, even if it’s just for a half day maybe walking around a local park or something. I’m gonna put those links to some of this on our show notes on our website. I’m not going to do all of them, just because that would be insane, but if you have any questions on all of these, again just go to the get social link. Hit me up, I’ll be happy to answer any questions you have.

Segment Two: House Cleaning. As promised we were having a contest. You tell me your favorite burrito in the area and you have a chance to win a $25.00 gift card to Red Mesa. I have to tell you that I was a little disappointed with the contest entries and turn outs. I had a total of four entries. So if you would have entered this contest, you would have had a 20% chance of winning. But a promise is a promise and I would like to congratulate Ellen Stanford who recommended the Burrito Bomb at Burrito Border and it is delicious. I actually went and tried this, like I said I only had four burritos to try just from the entries. So I did actually try this burrito Bomb at Burrito Border which is a local taco/burrito place in downtown St. Pete there. Next to Lucky Dill although Lucky Dill is, something’s happening there soon I believe, but it’s I want to say Central and Second. But if you are in that area it’s an absolute great place to stop by and get your taco fix. So Ellen, congratulations. I will be sending you an email and just to get your information so I can mail that out to you.

Segment Three: Let’s Get Personal. So you know we’ve been through five episodes here of Great Things Tampa Bay. I kind of powered through the first five. I did one by itself, and then I did another two and then I knocked out two again. I just kind of took a break for a month. You know, just kind of think about things, give it some thought to see what was working, what wasn’t working. What is interesting to you all. What you all are actually tuning in for. So, you know, I’m going to be trying a couple of different things over the next few episodes. You heard the earlier part of this episode we had the rapid fire section. So, you know, I have a couple fun ideas. I’m always looking to try out things. Like I said, if you do the same thing over and over and over you get burned out. I definitely wanna keep this fun and entertaining for you all. You all don’t tune into this to be bored out of your minds, so I try to spice it up a little bit, try to keep your interest, try to bring something a little bit new to you each time.

Real estate market is going nuts as I’m sure many of you has noticed. Median prices in the county are up like 11%. So if you’ve been thinking about selling, now’s a great time. My number is 727-300-2111.

And with that, I think we will wrap up this episode. Just to give you a little heads up on what’s coming up, i do have an interview booked with Salvatore the Butterfly Man and that should be pretty interesting. You remember the episode from Pass-A-Grille, which I believe was episode two, might have been episode three. We met this guy and bought an art piece from him. What he does is he takes butterflies from around the world and he doesn’t murder them, he arranges them into art installations inside of like a clear plexiglass box, from a singular butterfly to a whole arrangement of them. He’s a really, really interesting guy so I’m excited to be having that interview with him this week.

What else has been going on personally? Dog’s doing okay. She’s a whopping I think like six and a half pounds now. Been taking her on her own walks down to the bay and doing a little obedience training and all that good stuff so it’s a lot of fun.

If you haven’t shared Great Things Tampa Bay with your friends and family yet, all you have to do is go to our website, greatthingstb.com, that’s greatthingstb.com, we’re also on YouTube now so if somebody is not able to figure out the podcast thing, you can just send them a link to us on YouTube and they can listen to all of the episodes that way. If you’re looking for your own great place in Tampa Bay, please give me a call at 727-300-2111. I definitely have a passion for real estate as well as great things in Tampa Bay, so I would love to talk to you and help you out with that. Or, maybe you just wanna tell us how awesome, or how horrible we are. You can also do that at our website, greatthingstb.com, that’s greatthingstb.com and click on the “get social” link at the top of the page and there you can go and stalk us on all of our social profiles. You can also find show notes, recaps, transcripts and contests. Greatthingstb.com. So please subscribe to us on iTunes and also on Google Play if that’s your thing. That way you can find out the butterflies and balm are.

So I would also like to thank Dave who was kind enough to send me a testimonial. The sentiment that he expressed in the testimonial was heartfelt so I thought I would share it with you. If you would like to send me your own testimonials, easiest way is probably just to record a voice memo on your phone and then text it to me. You can text it to 727-300-2111. If this starts becoming a thing, I will probably just set up a phone number that you all can call and leave messages. You won’t have to speak directly to me. Sometimes it can get a little weird when people are saying nice things to you. I have difficulty accepting a compliment. But anything you think you want me to know, just record it and send it on over. Thanks for listening and see you next time.

Dave: So I’ve listened to all the episodes and I really like it. I find that I’m learning things each episode about the Bay Area and it’s kind of refreshing to hear one man’s journey through an area that doesn’t have all too many locals. So I like…I’m gonna keep learning. I really like the interview that was broken up over two parts. I think that would be something I would personally like to hear more of is getting another person’s story. And good job, keep it up. Keep up the good work, man.

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Episode 5 – Old School Cool

Episode 5 - Old School Cool

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In Episode 5 we go to and Old School restaurant at Bob Heilman’s Beachcomber in Clearwater Beach, Fl.

We also finish up our interview with Urban Group owner Andy.  We also talk about landscaping supplies and our best burrito contest!

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Bob Heilman's Beachcomber Restaurant

  • 447 Mandalay Ave Clearwater Beach, FL

    • Classy captains wafers
    • Relish trays
    • Sauteed chicken livers
    • Charcoal Steaks
    • Old school fine dining

    http://www.heilmansbeachcomber.com

    727-442-4144

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Kyle: Hello and welcome to Great Things Tampa Bay, the podcast about great eats, great places, and great people in the greater Tampa Bay area. I’m your host Kyle Sasser, a Tampa Bay native and licensed realtor. This is episode 5, we are calling it Old School Cool. We are covering a great restaurant over in Clearwater, one of my wife’s favorite, she basically showed this place to me to high heaven beforehand, I went and it completely lived up to the hype. So I would like to share with you. We also continue on with our interview with Andy and wrap that up, and he has got a few great things left to say to you, so we’re going to share that with you and then, to leave off, we got a [inaudible 00:00:53] pot, so this is quite depressing but just kind of an interesting talking about. So please stay tuned.

Thank you for inviting me along on your commute to work. Always appreciate it, I know that there’s plenty of other podcasts and you have decided to listen to me, so I just want to express my thank you to you. We love getting your feedback. It always makes my day to have somebody tell us that they love the show. I can’t say it makes my day when they tell me that they don’t like it, but I do like getting positive feedback, so if you have something that could improve the show, please let me know. And you can do so by going to our website which is greatthingstb.com, that’s G-R-E-A-T-T-H-I-N-G-S-T-B.COM. From there, there is the get social link at the top, so just click on that and it will take you to all our social profiles and you can throw [inaudible 00:01:51] there. And we’d love to hear about your favorite spots. So please leave me a message with what restaurants you currently love, you know, maybe you know a great sushi place or what’s the best boat ramp you’ve ever been to.Tell me something crazy that I wouldn’t think about normally. So without further ado, let’s get started.

Segment 1, Old School Cool.

This segment is all about old school cool and I don’t know if you’re anything like me but you kinda have this vision of what like a nice restaurant is and typically, it’s something that you saw on a movie maybe from like some period piece set in the 40s or the 50s or something like that. I am happy to tell you that there is actually a place here in Tampa Bay that fits that bill. And the name of it is Bob Heilman’s Beachcomber, and hope I got that last name right, names are always tough. So we’ll say Bob Heilman’s Beachcomber Restaurant. It’s located in Clearwater Beach, it’s right on the main drag there, whenever you come over the bridge, you take a right boom and yes, just a couple blocks there. You can find it at heilmansbeachcomber.com, H-E-I-L-M-A-N-S-B-E-A-C-H-C-O-M-B-E-R dot com, and yeah this place absolutely fits the bill for Old School Cool restaurant. My wife and I, we like to go there, well she goes there by herself sometimes without me, but we like to go on New Year’s Eve. It’s always a classy dining experience, you know, you kind of want to dress up a little bit, I mean you can eat there in a polo, a jacket is not required. New Year’s, I usually wear one just, you know, because we try to be fancy. So, we like putting on airs.

So Bob Heilman’s, it had a little chain of restaurants there, they started off in Lorain, Ohio, and had one at Fort Lauderdale, they also opened the one here in Clearwater. They all kind of have the Beachcomber dude as a mascot and he’s kind of almost like hobo looking but you know, he looks like he’s from money. Like, he looks like he’s a hobo going through a yacht if that makes any sense. So you’ll see him on the website and you know some of the, some of the items around the dining room, makes it interesting.

Restaurant opened in 1948, so old school dining experience. They have multiple rooms. They have a piano smack dab in the middle, kind of budded up to the bar. Bar is pretty substantial. People mill there, gather around, there’s a bunch of people in there eating and then they have, you know, other additional dining rooms off left and right. And it’s amazing, you know, you sit down, they bring out a relish tray with crackers and I don’t know about you but when I think classy restaurants, I think Captain’s Wafers. That might just be a holdover from when I was a kid, like a restaurant was on another level when they brought out the Captain’s Wafers.

So, my wife, she absolutely loves this time, the relishes are delicious. They easily bring out a selection for them and yeah, tasty, tasty stuff. Then for the food, they have, you know, the old school entrees. I think like chicken livers which is my wife’s favorite, she actually will go with her mother for lunch and specifically just get chicken livers, sauteed chicken livers. Sorry, let me clarify that and then I usually go for the steaks, I mean, they’re not a steak house per se, they also do seafood really, really well, but the steaks are absolutely delicious. You know, it’s just an old school place, you know, you kind of go there and like it’s not kichy jokey, like it’s serious and it’s been maintained since 1948, which is pretty awesome to me.

The staff there is great, they’re always really knowledgeable about all the food they have. They are more than happy to help you out with the selections for wine and all that. The ambiance is absolutely amazing. If you want like kind of a lively atmosphere, you can eat out in the main dining room. We like being kind of tucked around, around the corner from the main entrance there. It’s just a little quiet and a little bit more romantic for us. So they have both sides, you know, the romantic side and the lively out there and watching the lady play the piano.

So the place is awesome and if you’ve been wondering where that kind of experience is, I mean, you know, in Tampa, there’s Bern’s of course. You know, everybody knows about that place. Beachcomber is, I would say, their steak game is not quite up to Bern’s, which makes sense because, you know, that’s kind of Bern’s staple, that’s what they’re known for. But you know, I put it a notch below that, it’s still a great experience, it’s, you know, it can be relatively casual you know, I’d go with like a polo or something like that, it’s a great nice dining experience that kind of transports you back to, I don’t know, like you know maybe the Rat Pack is gonna be shown up there.

And if you ask around, they will tell you some of the famous patrons that have eaten there over the years, but you know I don’t really want to divulge too much on the podcast here. So go to Bob Heilman’s Beachcomber up in Clearwater Beach. It’s amazing and delicious and definitely worth the trip. If you’re going on New Year’s, I would recommend that you do book a reservation and honestly, out of courtesy, I would book a reservation any time since it’s kind of a nice thing to do, you know, makes you feel kind of special when you go on, you’re like “I have a table.” So that’s Bob Heilman’s Beachcomber up in Clearwater Florida. That definitely is a great thing in Tampa Bay.

Segment 2, Urban Interview.

Kyle: So I would like to wrap up this interview with Andy, owner of the Urban Comfort Group and again I’d like to thank Andy for taking the time to sit down with me and conversate. So anyway, without further ado, here we go.

Kyle: What do you see the St. Pete going, I don’t know, let’s say, two years and 10 years.

Andy: I’m bullish on it. I don’t think this is a bubble. I’m concerned about the housing costs, I have to rent.

Kyle: Housing prices have increased 9.2% in the last 4 months.

Andy: It is crazy. It’s not very sustainable. We have unique challenges in that we are water locked on three sides and I think some folks that come into town to service industry with bigger venues that require return customers, don’t fully get that and so there’s businesses in town right now that are failing, many people may not know they’re failing but they’re bleeding money because they come from areas where you have five million people and so that traffic comes, you know.

Kyle: I will say one of my concerns whenever edge was being developed, I mean it still is, but just the sheer number of restaurants that have gone in the last two years, and I mean it’s already a tough business, everything’s relatively stable.

Andy: Oh yeah, there’s [inaudible 00:08:58] a huge influx, it’s still not so like, what is that one called, the Galley just opened and so it’s like, man, a new restaurant, The Galley. Well, that really replaced something else. You know, there’s still turnover in that sense. I don’t think he has many places that aren’t restaurants being built into restaurants. I think that [inaudible 00:09:19] passed, so when we built Comfort, it’s because there was not a restaurant space available. What we are seeing now is that more restaurants that just haven’t made it and they’ve been turned over, but there still is a lot out there. And my concern for folks that are downtown and [inaudible 00:09:38] is people’s leases are starting to come up and they’re gonna see a big spike in rent. That’s not just for restaurants, that’s for all businesses down there.

Kyle: And then redevelopment, there’s a lot of pressure down there on redevelopment downtown. So how many condos are they building down there right now?

Andy: Yeah, what I mean that’s why you need to support all this business growth. I’m not totally insulated from that here in the district. But I feel safer than being down there.

Kyle: It is good like, you know, I have my real estate license so I mean, you know, I’m like, yeah, but still I come, you know, cautious, I m like, “Ye, no, maybe.”

Andy: What’s going to make or break, so if people in St. Pete really wanna be the next Portland, Oregon, what’s gonna make that happen is closing the gap and the disparity between a house five blocks south of here and five blocks north. Because you can go down there and probably get a house with $50,000. Five blocks north, you are going to pay $500,000, $400,000.

Kyle: Personally, I believe that that is gonna be the next redevelopment sector, I mean, the houses…

Andy: Yeah, but if that takes as long as Kenwood has taken, now we’re talking 20 years.

Kyle: I mean it’s tough, but, just like you said, the simple fact is we have water on three sides, the coastlines are pretty developed, you know and so everything’s basically going to push up in 19, I think personally from the south. Like the houses down there are amazing, I love the houses down there. And yeah, I really think that that’s where the next push is going to come, is through there. Ah, how long it is going to take, who knows.

Andy: Yeah, in any business where you haven’t signed a lease, that’s the problem.

Kyle: Yeah, how to project that.

Andy: Yeah, because, you know, great, it’s gonna be here in 10 years, can I survive the next 10 years. We have had more and more restaurants coming here as well and more bars, and I think there’s servicing a need and so what we’re seeing is the neighborhoods make up less percentage of our clientele, because the neighborhood’s one of the best in the city in terms of supporting their small independent businesses, but they only have so much time and money to given, you know, and so they’re spreading those dollars as accurately as they can and so we’re seeing more people from outside the neighbourhood come to make up for that.

Kyle: And I’m sure [inaudible 00:11:50] and I have no problem driving down here.

Andy: But I think one of you, I think most people that live east of Fourth, don’t eat west of Sixth.

Kyle: Yeah, like you said, like a lot of people don’t, they’re kind of blind and say anything outside of their little bunny trail, you know, so that’s one of the reasons why I’m doing this podcast is to kind of give, like I’ve lived here for 36 years, so I know little spots and places all over the place. How do you feel about FOODNOW, UberEATS, and similar services and how do you feel that they impact the dining experience?

Andy: I’m not a fan and that’s nothing against the folks that work for those entities, but what they’ve done a good job of doing is masking the cost, so when people order UberEATS, they don’t realize that Uber takes 30 cents on the dollar from the restaurant. and then charges a customer another 5. And so, when the customer is not happy with the quantity, the quality, the restaurant pays for it and gets all the blame, where the restaurant’s losing money to do that. You can try to circumvent that by changing the plate options but we don’t leave a lot of money on the table here. When we charge a price for a meal, we’re doing because it’s a fair price. So for us to cut 30% out, that’s way more than our profit margin. So for us to do that and be financially viable, we have to make up plates with smaller quantities where we’re getting closer to breaking even. The other thing with UberEATS and those other services is how often do those customers really come to the restaurant and eat. That’s the school of thought. Well, you get on there, so you’re getting brand exposure. People see your brand and then they eventually come back and we did it initially with the coming here in town and we did not see people coming back at all, so we ended it. When Uber came on the scene and they have a much larger platform, you know, let’s see this does and we’ve gotten some pretty good tractions in some of our locations, but I don’t like the customer doesn’t realize where their money’s going.

Kyle: Because honestly, like I always thought full disclosure, so one of the FOODNOW guys, he is on my soccer team. I’ve mentioned to him that, and if you don’t want me to play this to him, just let me know. But I actually asked him and he said, I was like, “Hey, I’m interviewing Andy” because I was like, “Man, you don’t have Urban.” And he’s like, “Yeah, we used to” and said that you didn’t like the fact that they were taking 30% and I was like, “You can’t really blame him on that one.”

Andy: It’s a crazy model that what they’re wagering on is that people will try your food and they come into restaurant and beginning, we still tried to do a good job of it. In the beginning, we were really good about if you came in the door and we didn’t recognize you, ask you, how do you find out about us, and never did someone come in and say, “Oh, I order FOODNOW from you guys.”

Kyle: I was going to say the two things is, so I did not know they took 30%, I just thought it was the delivery fee and like I never ordered from here because they were never on there, but you know I would order as Comfort food when I didn’t want to get out of my sweatpants.

Andy: Yeah, I think there are people out there that…

Kyle: But that’s a hard metric to track though.

Andy: Takeout food on the whole in the country is going up and so they are servicing that need but they’re taking too big of a chunk.They need to lower that percentage, but right now many restaurants feel pressured like you are missing out if you’re not doing it there.

Kyle: And it is relatively new like three, four, five years, probably five years at this point, I think, at least in this area, I know San Fran and other places have probably had a longer, but you know, I mean it’s probably like, what was the other thing that is big, like Groupon, like Groupon came on and all the restaurants jumped on and then they’re like you know we’re losing our ass.

Andy: Yeah, I was never in Groupon.

Kyle: And now, you know Groupon is kind of leveled out where you don’t really see as many restaurants you know it’s more like gym memberships.

Andy: My father-in-law will only eat at places if they have a Groupon. So like, that’s the worst.

Kyle: Like some customers love it, like the JCPenney model, you know, like they love coupons like this.

Andy: There was a store called [inaudible 00:16:00] that was huge.

Kyle: We had some here for a while, for a short while.

Andy: And when the recession hit, they closed because of that. Because they run so thin and they thrive off of promotions and so we don’t really offer happy hours or discounts and that’s because it goes back to we are confident, we’re charging a fair price.

Kyle: I mean is this fair for how delicious it is. I mean, that’s my honest assessment, I’m not just saying that just because, you know, you agreed to interview. Like I’m on Facebook raving about this place and groups, like most marking classes now, that’s what they wanna push you towards, is creating raving fans that will go out for you and, you know, sell your product for you. In real estate, I’m trying to do the same thing with my clients. I’m trying to give them a level of service that causes them to be like, “Holy shit you know I’ve never had an agent that works like this for me.”

Andy: Yeah, that makes sense, totally.

Kyle: And this is part of it, you know, because I put a little blurb in there, that I’m a real estate agent as well, if you’re thinking of buying a place in Tampa Bay, let me know.

Andy: Yeah.

Kyle: But the thrust of the podcast is, this is a great place to go, check it out, you might not know about it.

Andy: I think we’ve I’ve been fortunate with how recognized our brand is becoming when you compare it to our real revenue. See, I don’t know what you call that brand, leverage or whatever term but there’s still [inaudible 00:17:19] who have no idea who we are or how many locations we have. A lot of people say, “Oh yeah, I’ve been to your place, the brewery.” I’m like, “No, we have other ones, you knew? ” “Yeah, you have two, right?” Like, “No, we have four.”

Kyle: I know you have a brewer. Are all the beers brewed in-house?

Andy: Three-tiered system. We are not allowed to sell beer to ourselves or self-distribute and so we are retail locations, I mean, we also cannot sell beer to a distributor.

Kyle: And that’s Florida’s ridiculous laws.

Andy: Yeah. So we only brew the beer down in Comfort that’s where it’s all sold.

Kyle: And they don’t have, you don’t have food down their at Comfort?

Andy: Yeah.

Kyle: Because I went there for the first time at the end of February, a great place, have a delicious cocktail. It’s like a Mojito or something but it was amazing.

Andy: Probably Hemingway Daiquiri, the coconut rum?

Kyle: I think so. Yeah, it had the St. Pete distillery.

Andy: Yeah yeah.

Kyle: That place is good. A little dangerous but well, we were PedalPub so.

Andy: Oh, okay, yeah yeah.

Kyle: So Comfort, what’s their focus?

Andy: Serving Comfort food. So fried chicken, chicken pop pie, we have a braised beef rib on there, a pulled pork and grits dish, shrimp and grits, fried green tomatoes. That menu is pretty expensive. There is a lot on that menu.

Kyle: And Creamery is?

Andy: Homemade ice cream and dessert waffles.

Kyle: Delicious, I want to stop by that one.

Andy: And Deli is where we cure all our own lunch meats.

Kyle: That used to be…

Andy: Provisions?

Kyle: Yeah, it used to be provisions, right?

Andy: Yeah, so initially that was just a sore spot and then we thought of this idea, okay let’s do sandwiches and craft beer. So we launched that, kind of saw what the customers wanted and what they didn’t want. One mistake, one failure we had is buying a bunch of European-labeled beer and our craft beer industry here in town is not monogamous. People are more attracted to a brand they don’t know or a brand that they trust but of style or beer that they haven’t had yet. Like the Chimays, great beers, widely known. People aren’t as interested and spend $19 dollars on a Chimay even though that’s almost like close to cost, when they can buy a $2.50 IPA from a brewery 30 miles from there. [inaudible 00:19:37].

Kyle: So you feel people are more about exploring new stuff or…

Andy: I think people in our industry focus too much on the quality of the liquid versus the intentions of a buyer, so the intentions of the buyer is to try new stuff and experiment and have experience. If they’ve already had a Chimay, they know it’s going to be like the same way tomorrow, same way a week from now. So there’s nothing new under the sun there. And I think they’re less attracted to pursue that. Also it’s price. $9 for a Chimay when you can, you know, spend $2.50.

Kyle: It’s true, it’s true, I could get four, you know, two, three or four.

Andy: Yeah. Nad I think that’s how Bill [SP] kind of looked at it too.

Kyle: Make sense, any personal favorites?

Andy: For beer? I’m big in porters and stouts. So [inaudible 00:20:00] stout has been one of my favorites forever. Kind of those sweeter one I guess that has a roasty backbone..

Kyle: So I’m not big on beer, I like craft beers but I don’t like the IPA stuff and all that, but I had, I went to Two Henrys and had, they had like a vanilla, which probably marks…

Andy: You know the porter??

Kyle: It might have been an ale. It was on a little on the lighter side because I don’t usually go for the darker stuff.

Andy: Okay, so what I tell people is the color of your beer dictates the taste, just like the color of your shirt dictates the warmth. So you can have really happy dark beer or really light dark beer or you can have a really sweet dark beer and that is just, yes, there’s certain flavors that will come out with how kilm [SP] the grain is, but you can make a dark lager that will be way lighter than like certain light beers that are with ail.

Kyle: Do you have any of those you can recommend to me?

Andy: A dark lager? If you want to get hammered, you got a Doppelbock. Doppelbock has to have 6.3% alcohol or more.

Kyle: D-O-P-P-E-L?

Andy: Yeah and then there is also Dubbell, D-U-B-B-E-L-L, which is a Belgian style. Those are kind on the sweeter side but the alcohol content is so high, but they would still be darker nature and…

Kyle: And I will say like your Urban Brew and Barbecue, the staff has always been really helpful on the beers, so I guess, they either really love beer or there’s some training on it.

Andy: Yeah, we’re doing more, more training, pretty extensive training. There’re programs out there like Cicerone that you can do, but Cicerone kind of covers some things that I don’t think are as useful. One of the questions on their test is where is 80% or 90% percent of alcohol metabolizing your body. A bartender really doesn’t need to know that.

Kyle: Yeah, a little, seems more of like a law enforcement sort of.

Andy: Yeah, maybe they’ve improved it since the last time I’d seen it. We used to require everyone here to do a Cicerone test and we kind of decided to pull that stuff inside and we have 10 different classes that we teach about the history of craft beer, different styles of craft beer, how to properly pour craft beer. What I’m most proud about with our restaurants is the level of doing things from scratch that we have taken it. When I threw the idea about us making our own bread, a lot of people were, “Okay, that’s just crazy,” you know.

Kyle: Most people don’t know this but most bread, you usually get out from a local bakery, right?

Andy: Yeah it’s probably more economical to do that, but it gives us a lot more control over the quality of our bread and like we wanted to try something new, then we just do it. So the only thing we don’t make is cheese and ketchup. And cheese, we just haven’t decided to tackle that yet. I don’t if we ever will. That’s quite an operation to take on, and then ketchup, everyone’s reference, everyone has ketchup by the age one or two and so there is a deep rooted reference to Heinz. And no matter what you do, you’re never gonna to make something that’s as good.

Kyle: That’s true, have you eaten at a refinery?

Andy: Yes.

Kyle: So they do actually make their own ketchup there?

Andy: Yes.

Kyle: [inaudible 00:23:43] I guess they still do.

Andy: Yeah, actually they do. We’ve toyed around a bit and ultimately, I think you get like that’s good, we want it to be great though.

Kyle: You wanna blow people’s minds?

Andy: Yeah, and so we’re never going to do that with ketchup.

Kyle: And personally, I believe that if you’re still putting ketchup on things besides French fries after the age of 8, you should probably expand your mind a little bit.

Andy: That’s all right. To each their own. I’m not good at self-promotion at all, but I’m very proud of what we’ve been able to do but I am even more looking forward to the changes that we’re making with the current employees and with this management group, we’re really gonna set the foundation in 2017 for some great growth in the years to follow.

Kyle: I love it, I love it. Thank you so much for your time, Andy.

Andy: You’re welcome.

Kyle: Thanks to Andy for having that interview with us. Again he is the owner of the Urban Comfort group of restaurants which includes Urban Comforts, Urban Barbecue, Urban Creamery and Urban Deli, and I’d like to recommend this week that you give Urban Deli a try, they go there, they cure all their own meats and make their own breads, and it’s amazing. And all of these restaurants are on Central Avenue, so if you’re really bold, you could hit all of them up in one day, I mean, you’re more than welcome to. I think most sane individuals would probably spread that all over a few days. But you know, I don’t know, that’s up to you.

Segment 3, Let’s Get Personal

Kyle: So I release these a few weeks after they’re recorded, I usually just kind of bust through, you know, three or four of these in a day. It takes time to set up the equipment and all that and get the sound right and I always try to go through and you know, record a few in sequence.

So this is the birthday week for both myself and my wife. What we usually do is we combine a dinner together. This week we went to Melting Pot, which, yeah, I know, you all are thinking it’s like, it’s like a, you know, it’s a chain restaurant, they’ve been around forever, what’s new and exciting there. Well, I wanted to share with you that there is something great about the one here in St. Petersburg. I’m gonna to go a little more in-depth into it in a future episode, but the cool thing about the Melting Pot here in St Pete which is on Fourth Street, just south of 22nd Avenue. It’s a little tough to see because I’m not sure if it is landscape or whatever but it’s hard to spot the place. You’ll see it when you drive by it.

But the cool thing about the Melting Pot here in St Petersburg is that we get try of a lot of the new stuff that they try out before it goes out to the other restaurants. So if you ever eat at Melting Pot, you know they bring out you know the pots and broths and all that stuff that you can cook the meals then. Currently at the one of the St. Pete, they’re trying out a new way of doing it, which is they bring out a cast iron skillet and then put that down and you’re able to grill your food, which you know, I mean there’s similar things around, but what we found was that if you cook the meat, almost all the way in the broth and then transfer it over to the grill and then seer it up on the grill, the taste becomes absolutely amazing.

And of course, you know, it is the traditional Melting Pot experience, you know, it’s not a get in and get out kind of meal. So anticipate spending a while there. But it’s always cool just to pop in there and see what they’re doing and what sort of new stuff they’re trying. They also are doing award-winning cheese that they prepared. They won an award for the best cheese and they bring out a fondue of this stuff. It is mind-blowingly delicious. And here’s the bad part, it’s only going on for about eight weeks. So when you hear this, it’s going to be about halfway through that, so you need to get there right now, ask for their award-winning cheese fondue. It is like, I don’t say it too often, but stop what you’re doing and make the reservation, get there and try the stuff because it is stupid. If you like cheese in any form or fashion, it is delicious. So I wanted to share that with you and get that out to you, just so you know.

Saturday night, not too much going on, you know, we’ve booked our cabin for the solar eclipse, August 21st. So if you haven’t done so, do make some plans for that. There is a new podcast called Every Little Thing and their first main episode, they actually covered the impact that witnessing a solar eclipse firsthand has on people and they all described it as rapturous. I mean, I’m sure you can imagine how weird and creepy it must be to, you know, have the sun blotted out in the middle of the day for a few minutes and how unnerving that might be but they are actually chronicle and follow around some people who, that’s what they do, like every 18 months because that’s how often solar eclipses happen on the face of the planets. They’re a group of people that just go around and travel and just kind of follow them around. And as I’m sure you can imagine they are a few characters but it’s an interesting podcast and it might inspire you to pulling the trigger and booking a place to get out and see the eclipse.

And I’d like to remind you that our burrito contest is still going on, so go to our website or social media pages and find the contest link and click on that and share with us your favorite burrito place and we will be choosing a winner. Winner will get a $25 gift certificate to the Red Mesa Family of Restaurants, which is delicious. So we would love to have your input. We will be announcing the winner on episode 6 or 7. So please subscribe so you will be notified that you won.

Segment 4, Sobering Thoughts

Kyle: So I was listening to another podcast, it’s called 44,000 Hertz. And it’s a podcast basically about sound and how sound impacts, you know, your life, how you react to sounds, how designers actually design sound to evoke certain emotions and stuff. It’s a great podcast, it’s really, really interesting. But they actually ran through a thought experiment with an astrophysicist or somebody that’s interested in outer space and they were saying that human beings, we rely mainly on sight which is a result of light bouncing off of everything. And light is everywhere in the universe, like it’s everywhere, you know, there are stars in the sky, there’s light reflecting off of everything’s, you know, the sun puts out a ton of light.

But by comparison, being able to hear my voice right now is very, very, very rare and special in the universe. And if you think about it, it makes sense. You know, for a sound to happen, you need air, a medium, you need something like that can produce the sound and then you need something that can receive the sound, which is your ears. You know, it’s like on the moon, you know, there’s no atmosphere on the moon, so there’s no sound up there. You know, so like if something explodes up there, there’s no, you know, there’s no sound. If somebody were to speak, there’s nothing to vibrate the vocal chords.

And if you go to Venus, then the sound is going to be, well I mean, in addition to you know dying within like you know five-tenth of a second, being crushed by the atmosphere. If you were on Mars though, you couldn’t hear anything and that’s because Mars’ atmosphere is so thin, you know, the winds there can blow 100 miles an hour, but because there’s not atmosphere there, you don’t feel the pressure from the wind. It’s not applying a lot of force to you. You know, if you’re trying to have a conversation again while not dying, you won’t be able to hear much at all. You know, you might just hear the, you know, little tinkles of fine sand hitting your spacesuit as the 100-mile an hour wind throws it against your face mask.

So sound very, very, very rare and it’s amazing honestly to think about that we have developed both the instruments to communicate and the receptacles to hear it. You know just the fact that it’s not uncommon on this planet. It got me a little philosophical as well, so I just wanted to share that with you.

Outro

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Episode 4 – Vesuvio – Bella’s Italian Cafe

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In Episode 4 learn about the best Italian restaurant in Tampa, and hear more from our interview with Andy Salyard owner of Urban Group.

You’ll also learn about our awesome burrito contest and how to suture lacerations in the deep jungle of the Congo!

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Kyle: Hello and welcome to Great Things Tampa Bay, the podcast about great eats, great places, and great people in the greater Tampa Bay area. I’m your host Kyle Sasser, a Tampa Bay native and a realtor. This is episode four, Vesuvio. And in this episode, we cover my favorite Italian restaurant over in Tampa, and we also have another segment of our interview with Andy from the Urban Group. We also have a contest challenge with a little reward, a little gift card for you for your participation so please be sure to take a listen and check that out.

And finally, a little jungle survival tip, if you ever find yourself in the wilds of the Congo, please stay tuned because it might just save your life. I’d like to thank you for inviting me along on your commute to work or maybe you’re listening to me when you’re bicycling around somewhere. Probably shouldn’t be listening to me while you’re bicycling. Please take at least one ear out, so you can hear oncoming traffic. I just want you to be safe and finish this episode.

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Segment 1: Vesuvio

So the restaurant I’m going to be talking about today is Bella’s Italian Café. It’s located over at 1413 South Howard Avenue over in Tampa. The place has been there since 1986. I have eaten there at least since 1997 or ’08. So there’s two different types of Italian to me. As you can tell, I definitely love categorizing things. So there is the Italian that I call, like, high cuisine which is, you know, fancy ingredients and everything is prepared to the hilt, parsley is arranged just so when that is presented on a pretty plate. And then the other side of that is what I like to call mama’s Italian which is, you know, just good old classics, maybe some fettuccine Alfredo, some pasta, some pizza, that sort of stuff, maybe some fish.

Bella’s Cafe is definitely on the mama’s Italian side of that, and it is the best in the area. There are a couple other Italian restaurants in the area that I would recommend, Il Ritorno, if you want the fancy Italian, and then Pia’s out in Gulfport if you wanna split the difference. So it’s like halfway between mama’s Italian and the fancy Italian. So like at Pia’s, they make their own all-around pastas and all that stuff. Both of those places are absolutely delicious, quite a bit different experience from Bella’s, though.

Speaking of Bella’s and it has been updated relatively recently. It’s a nice interior. They have a great bar section there. There is almost always a bunch of people there. Parking can be difficult. Thankfully, they have put in a valet in the last few years. You used to have to park on this nightmare of a parking lot in the location there out on Howard. But thankfully, with the valet there, you just drive up, hand in the keys, and you walk off, and that’s awesome. It’s like you don’t have to worry about trying to park. I used to have a Ford F150 truck and just trying to park that thing. So anyway, get the valet.

And you walk in, the place looks nice. The bar is usually hopping. Nine times out of 10, there’s gonna be, you know, 20, 30, 40 people there. There’s gonna be lively servers are gonna be walking around everywhere. You’re gonna be able to see right into the kitchen, and they actually did that before that was a big thing. So you can see in there, they have their pizza oven which you can see them cooking on. It’s not like you’re a diner and you just sit in there staring at people making food.

The seating, I would call relatively intimate, lots of booze. Without further ado, on to the more important part, the food. So when I first started going there, I would get the fish, and I’m not really too big on fish prepared out at restaurants. I do make a mean salmon at home, and my wife tells me that I make, it’s the best one she’s ever had. It does involve a little smoking and lump charcoal action, and some soy sauce and some honey, and it’s absolutely amazing. But whenever I eat out of restaurants, I usually shy away from the food.

I made an exception in Bella’s case, and when I first went there, I would get the maple blaze salmon on a cedar plank, which I had never had before in my culinary experience when I was younger, was relatively limited. I mean, I was mainly restricted to Outbacks, Applebee’s, that sort of stuff. At Plant City, we have this place called Buddy Freddys, which I had eaten there, and that sort of thing.

So this is me kind of stepping outside of my range a little bit, and whenever they brought it out it was this perfectly cooked salmon fillet. It was on a cedar plank that was still smoking from being cooked, and the combination of the maple glaze on the salmon and the smoking cedar, it blew my mind. I won’t say it inspired me to learn how to cook because I did not at that point in time, but it really made me wish that I would learn how to cook, and I’ll put it that way.

It was until years later that I actually took an interest in learning how to cook something. Since then, I also had tried the pizzas they have there, which are also great. They were one of the first places with an actual pizza oven that I’ve had eaten at. I’m sure there was other places around, but me personally, it was the first place I ate out with one, and absolutely delicious. I know nowadays, it’s kind of a trend. You just see them around, but their pizzas and flat breads are absolutely amazing.

So that moves us on to my favorite entrée, confetti spaghetti. I wanna get this right, so I bought the book. So, this place is so awesome. The owner and the chef actually wrote a cookbook that details all of the dishes on their menu. And of course, I loved this place so much. I had to have it. I bought it right then, and coincidentally, the owner was there at the bar and signed the book for me, which was very nice. So if he’s listening to that, thank you.

So my favorite entrée is confetti spaghetti, and I’ve ordered this for probably 12 years now, and have not had anything else there. I might have had a bite of my wife’s stuff on occasion, but confetti spaghetti is the only thing I’ve eaten there. And basically, it’s a pasta obviously, it has spaghetti in the name, but the secret is both the sauce and how it’s prepared. And it’s basically a combination of tomato cream sauce, which I don’t know why more places don’t do that. Like tomato is great by itself and cream is great by itself, but to combine the both becomes something much, much stronger.

Having bought the book, I have actually prepared this myself and it came out equally amazing, and the secret I have found is that it is cooked with bacon, obviously. Bacon makes everything better. But yeah, when you prepare this with bacon is ridiculously good. So, the dish is basically spaghetti pasta in a tomato cream sauce with basal, bacon, diced tomatoes, some peppers, some scallions, and some peas, and basal, and some parsley, and some parmesano, some parmesano, and that makes it absolutely delicious. I have not met one person that was ever disappointed by this dish. So, when you go there make sure at least one person that’s there orders this dish.

I know some other stuff is pretty good and [inaudible 00:07:57], and the reason their stuff is so delicious is because they make everything in-house fresh every day. And again, they have been doing this since 1986. They were one of the few places that were…farm to table thing has really changed that a lot, and it’s pretty typical nowadays as long as you stay away from, you know, chain restaurants and stuff like that. But find a place that will prepare everything thing every day, every morning, from fresh ingredients. But in the sea of mediocrity, Bella’s was the one bright and shining beacon in my culinary life. So, hats off to Bella’s and of course, they would not be the best without a stupendous dessert, and that’s where we get the name of this episode from Vesuvio.

So, Vesuvio obviously, the volcano it blew it’s top and this dessert will make you blow your top, which is a horrible joke to introduce a stupendous dessert. So, of course, it is chocolate because that’s my thing, and it is a lava cake, and I know you all are rolling our eyes because this is like the second or third lava cake that I’ve done. I don’t care, I love them. This one is the lava cake to end all lava cakes. Even if you don’t like chocolate, this thing will still blow your mind. My wife, I mean, she likes chocolate but she’s not as big on it as I am, obviously, I have a problem. But chocolate and we have a love-hate relationship, but yeah, even people who don’t like chocolate, any time I’ve had them try this dish is like, “Oh man. Oh man, that’s good, that’s good.”

So yeah, so it’s more of a cakey sponge and it’s thick, so you do get a good piece of cake there. And then inside it’s an ample portion of melted chocolate, not too much, not too little. If you remember my previous episode, my complaint was that the one that I had [inaudible 00:09:50] the sponge was a little too dense and the melted chocolate in the middle a little too much. Bella’s, to me, it has the perfect combination of both, and then on top of that, they put ice cream. And I know that description sounds like every other lava cake ever made. They throw ’em by the boat load off the back of the Cisco trucks. This one is made with love by the people of Bella’s and it shows through. Just give it a try and it’ll blow your mind.

So that’s Bella’s Italian Café, absolutely amazing. If you want some of the greatest Italian food in Tampa Bay, definitely go there. I am gonna be reviewing Pia’s and Il Ritorno in a few later episodes, but I wanted to lead off with my favorite here. Just their longevity, and they have maintained the same quality throughout that, coupled with the fact that they put a cookbook out. It’s an amazing place. I love it. I’ve had birthdays there. They’ve always been great. I’ve never had bad service there. I can’t say enough good things about them. Bon appétit and, Bella’s, I love you, so.


Segment two – Urban Interview

So for this segment, I would like to continue our interview with Andy of the Urban Group here of the urban restaurants in St. Pete. I had a great time sitting down with him. This was from a few weeks ago and this was also…we used a segment of this for episode two. And just wanna continue the interview so you get to know him a little bit better. And without further ado, here we go.

Kyle: So besides your restaurants, what’s your favorite place in the Tampa Bay Area? And it can be like a restaurant, a park, you know, like just someplace you go to rewind or…

Andy: My house.

Kyle: Well, tell me that. What do you like about your house?

Andy: My son, you know, any chance I get to kinda hang out with him.

Kyle: All right. I promise I’m not gonna give the address out [crosstalk].

Andy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what I found myself doing now is when we have employee meetings or get-togethers or whatever, I’m trying to keep everything here within the district. I want to grow this part of town between 16th Street and 31st Street. And I think we are the place where the locals go. Like, yeah, we have tourist come down here. You know, Beach Drive, I think, has turned much more into tourism, and to where some folks who live really close the Beach Drive go.

Old Northeast and those neighborhoods, north of there kind of feed off of 4th Street, you go downtown a little bit, the edge is able to get some spillover. And so the Grand Central district has been supported greatly by Kenwood and Historic Kenwood. And I think we’re starting to see more people come up the street, and I think that’s only gonna improve over time. We have much better infrastructure for parking than a lot of these other neighborhoods.

Kyle: Yeah, edge is pretty tough to find parking sometimes.

Andy: Yeah, and then I don’t know, I don’t think that’s gonna improve any time soon. What we need a better job of is all these neighborhoods in Pasadena and closer to Treasure Island and even further down to Avery [SP], a lot of times they get on the freeway, they come up to 25, get off on 31st Street, and they just fly down 1st avenue South, and don’t even realize there’s anything here. And so we need to do a job collectively as a group and a district educating those people. And being open to the idea that we are the place where the locals go.

Kyle: I’ve been in the area for…I’ve always lived in, like, Tampa, St. Pete, you know, since I was 18. Like, it’s very, very recent that the edge has built up, like, the last year and a half, two years. And the central district was always, you know, the little shops and, yeah, there was a few restaurants, a few rest place. It’s now changed but there used to be a great shop there. But, yeah, like, this area has really come along. I used to get my hair done off the street. But, yeah, like you said, this was the place for most locals came. Beach Drive was more of a…I don’t wanna say the channel side of St. Pete, but it’s a little more commercial and a little more not independent, I guess you could say. Like most of the restaurants down there are independent, but, you know, they’re a little bit more like a corporate feel, I guess you could say. I work with Keller Williams St. Pete so I’ve done it all the time, so I know. But, like, I love this area, too.

Andy: Well, historically, this neighborhood is where the working class families worked serviced the city. And so historically, this is where the locals shop and played and ate.

Kyle: And I read recently, they’re gonna be building some affordable apartments in [crosstalk].

Andy: Yes.

Kyle: That’s a project that’s coming up.

Andy: I saw that going through, yeah.

Kyle: That’s awesome. What priorities do you have more than anything? This could be what makes you really happy or what makes you really pissed.

Andy: So really happy would be when employees are confused at the owner, when customers think employees [inaudible 00:14:40]. I think that’s awesome. That’s our end goal is I want to create a brand, not a face or a personality. Because, you know, I’m lazy and so I don’t wanna have to be on call 24/7.

Kyle: Well, you call it laziness, I call it efficiency. You want people to take ownership, I mean, most people are smart enough to take care of a lot of problems that come up, you know. Like personally, I always try to hand them off what I was doing, give them enough freedom to come up with their own process for it, you know, within balance. Like all I care about is this input comes out and this is what I want to come out of. How you get there, as long as it makes sense and it’s efficient, whatever.

Andy: Yeah, yeah. As far as what sets them off the other direction, I would say the opposite of that is just lack of caring, lack of being cognizant, sending out a plate that obviously is wrong, and you see it pass through three different channels. You know, the cook puts in the window, and then the food runner runs it, and the server come to the table and looks at it, and say how did none of you guys catch this?

Kyle: Yeah. Somebody should have seen that. I’m guessing you have some sort of training program then or…?

Andy: Yeah. That’s part of the organization change that we’re going through. There’s different people are trained in each location. We’re gonna centralize that to just one person. And then the one person that is going to be in the training is either the GM on the front of the house side because they’re ultimately responsible for the results of that person. And our back house side is gonna be kitchen operations manager because it’s the same thing. So if you teach a dishwasher how to do something and they don’t do it right, well, it’s your fault because he works for you. So hopefully, we can sustain that. We’ll see, and, you know, with our plans for growth and everything, that’s gonna become a full-time position for somebody just to train people. But I want to keep these ties as short as possible.

Kyle: So basically, maybe like one or two steps between, I guess not the bottom rung but, you know, like the entry level in?

Andy: Yes and no, because I think you can only effectively manage probably 7 to 10 people, and then your organization can really all be effective up to a point about 50 people. So across all of our entities right now, we’re probably of 48, 49, but by doing this management company idea, we’re essentially creating a new entity and backing that back down to 8 people. And then that will grow over time. These restaurants will grow over time, but something I wanna be careful of is when we see a body get too big to separate these things out, to keep that small.

Kyle: Because usually, as you’re growing an organization like that, you usually have to peel responsibilities off of people…

Andy: The exercise I do a lot of, not like every day, probably every couple months, is write down what are my responsibilities and then what are the responsibilities of an owner, what are the responsibilities of a president or whatever you wanna call that person. And so that’s been a constant process last two years of shaving these things off, shaving them off and either creating new positions or adding responsibilities onto a position. And so that exercise, we just went through this last week.

Kyle: Is that fun for you? Do you enjoy that part?

Andy: I enjoy the strategy part because I think it involves creativity, figuring out logistical problem or figuring out organizational problem, because I’m passionate about building. It’s the way that people process the products, that’s what I wanna do. And so we’re talking about, you know, 2017 is our time to build organization. That is a lot of figuring out board charts and chain of commands, all the responsibilities you can cover and where they lie. Because our basic philosophy is going to…if it’s outside platting food or serving food, then that responsibility lies within the management company. And it’s a really simplistic way to look at a pretty complex operation, but it yet have some type of that guiding light.

Kyle: I forget who said that “Simplicity is the most elegant complexity.” Because it takes so much. Just like skill and vision and all to break things down into simple jobs, and then put that up with people. And then have everything run efficiently. Like, anybody can be back and barking orders and given a set of rules or stuff like that, but actually build an organization where everyone wants to be there and is pulling towards a successful goal is like that to me is magic.

Andy: Simplicity. We got some tough learning curves ahead of us next couple of months to figure this thing out and keep everything going and grow at the same time. But I mean, I wouldn’t be doing if I didn’t think we could do it.

Kyle: Awesome. You know any good jokes or quotes?

Andy: The greatest motivation comes from desperation, and so that’s kind of a key indicator for me when I meet people, of why they want to do something. Because some people want to do something and some people have to do something. So honestly, if someone tells me that they have kids and they feed them, I’m like, “This guy is serious” or “This girl is serious.”

Kyle: Some people just kind of naturally have that drive, do you find that, because I know that you’re saying that you’re building like more of an ownership among your employees, do you find that when you show them that that opportunity is available, that they step up more, they pull a little bit more for you?

Andy: Honestly, I think when people get closer to that level, most of them want it less. Because then they look at, okay, what the risks and how I can’t pass a problem on anyone.

Kyle: Like they’re the end all be all responsibility.

Andy: And so, we’ll see how many folks really wanna to take that leap, because it is going to be a risk and it has to be. You start with is it the right thing to do and there’s different school of thought in that. You create something, you start something and yes these people help grow it but these people also got fair compensation. So are they really entitled to anything more than that? So I’m in the camp of they did a good job and sometimes people do deserve more than what they’re getting paid, but then you have to look at some logical standpoint, are you just giving away the form?

And what you get out of being any type of employee-owned company or [inaudible 00:20:44] sharing is more engagement from your employees. I think you build goodwill in the community, because the trend that I’m seeing, well I’m not just seeing, it is the trend big corporations and chains are losing market share to independent businesses, independent restaurants. People want to be able to walk in and see the owner.

I’m not able to kind of feel my passion which is building and stay in one spot. And so, I know I’m gonna continue building, but how do I not lease something kind of in a lurch because it no longer has the feel of being independently owned. And so, I think the one way to do that is to empower [inaudible 00:21:20] and give them some type of ownership. One of the other things that that model gives you, is it differentiates us from other restaurants. And so, it is a way to differentiate yourself with customers, it’s also a way to differentiate yourself with employees. And so, if people know they can come to Urban and have a way to greater chance of having a career in this industry, we’re only gonna get the better talent.

Kyle: Exactly and talent, whenever you’re building an organization, talent is the hardest thing to come by. You can find most of the other stuff relatively easy, but finding talent and putting talent in the position like that, I mean, that is the most important part of building a successful organization.

Andy: The other quote I’m gonna give you is “Comparison is the thief of joy,” it’s by Teddy Roosevelt.

Kyle: I like that one.

Andy: And I didn’t quite get it when I first heard it, but what it really means is we’re doing what we’re doing here at Urban, and we can compare ourselves restaurant that’s down at Beach Drive and say, “Well, we suck.” Because we’re not doing nearly as much as they do, or we could just focus on what we’re doing and how we’re doing it and be content with that.

Kyle: Exactly. I love it. Have you read Jay Alexander’s book “The Power Of Broke?”

Andy: No.

Kyle: He’s one of the guys on “Shark Tank” I think. He designed one of the Fubu brands. He failed four times in the ’80s and ’90s before that brand finally took off. The entire book is about…because he mortgaged the farm and all that stuff, failed four times, lost everything and just kept at it, kept at it. But the book is about like the motivation and the passion allows you to get more done, than if you just have the money, or like if somebody just gave you the prime spot downtown on Beach, you wouldn’t…

Andy: So I will never be as successful as any of those types of people, because I don’t have the drive to be that great. Meaning, I don’t have the willingness to sacrifice what it takes to be that great. I’m not averse to risk. I take a lot of risks, but my number one priority is to be a dad and a husband. And so I’m automatically I kind of cut myself out. And I’m fine with that and this is the decision I made, and the great success in the world can’t make up for failure in the home, another quote for you.

Kyle: Can I quote you on that?

Andy: Yeah. So my failures I was fortunate enough to be presented with opportunities before I got business for myself, to help others start their companies, and kind of see what they did right and what they did wrong, work for free for like nine months building a website. And we launched it day one, had great organic traffic, and day two, the principle was out of money and we shut it down. So to have something that you…

Kyle: That’s rough. Yeah, yeah.

Andy: …can afford into for free for that long, and it just turned into nothing. But the reason why I took that chance is because it wasn’t as the end results, what I’m gonna do in the whole time or lesson I learned. And so I’ve done that a couple times, because I’ve had plenty of failures. And it’s cheesy, but the way I look at it is failures are fantastic, because if everything you do works out the way you want it, that means you already know how to do it. And so you’re not really learning anything.

Kyle: I always feel that personal growth only comes from getting in, like becoming uncomfortable because it means you’re an uncharted territory.

Andy: Well, growth is change so that’s where failure or highlighting where you need to change.

Kyle: Thanks to Andy for that interview. So again, that is Andy. He owns the Urban Group’s Urban Comforts, Urban Barbecue, Urban Creamery, and Urban Deli, and they are located all up and down Central Avenue in St. Petersburg and I can’t recommend them enough. Everything they make is delicious. You can go to any of the Urban restaurants this week I would like to recommend that you go to Urban Comfort. They specialize in Southern comfort food. They also have a little shuffleboard outside and some delicious, delicious cocktails. So, let your imagination run wild on how interesting that you can get.


Segment 3 – Let’s Get Personal

So I’d like to thank you for tuning in to this, our fourth episode of Great Things Tampa Bay. As you can hear, I’m recording things a little differently. I do wanna say that I have actually gotten some feedback from two of you, and I wanna thank you for that. It is really difficult because I’m basically just sitting here in my office speaking to this microphone, and it’s hard to judge and gauge if you’re enjoying this, if you’re not enjoying this, if maybe I should cut some of these stuff down. So please, your feedback is absolutely important to me.

I can’t make the podcast better without your input and feedback. Go to the website, click on the social links. So my challenge to you today is to tell me about your favorite burrito and burrito place. I have a couple that I like, but I’m not gonna tell you what they are. I wanna hear what you like. I’m giving away a $25 gift card to the Red Mesa Group Restaurant, so we’re here in St. Petersburg, and I know you Tampa folks might be kind of mythed about that, but trust me, it’s worth the drive. And we are gonna be featuring a few more Tampa spots here in the future so I want you to tell me about your favorite burrito place. And the best story is I’m actually going to be going and trying those places, and we will be announcing a winner on episode six or seven so please be sure to subscribe.

You can find the entry to this contest on our website. It’ll be on all of our social media. Go to our website, greatthingstb.com. Click on the link for the contest, and we will be announcing the winner. And I hope to find a new great burrito place, so bring your A game. So I’d also like to challenge you to share our podcasts. If you share us with a friend, we will actually double your entry. So if you submit once and you share it with one friend, you get two entries, which doubles your chances to win. So be sure to share us.

So that’s about it. So the only other personal thing I’d like to share with you currently is that the dog is doing well. You know, we introduced her on the first episode and she’s appeared in some of my real estate videos. So she’s grown, she’s actually doubled in size now from when we got her, which puts her up to a whopping four and a half to five pounds. And the other thing is my wife, this weekend, she went down and swam with sharks down in Jupiter. They were having a little team-building exercise at her office. Yeah, so, not sure if I would ever do such thing. It sounds a little crazy to me, but who knows, maybe.

And I also ordered five cubic yards of topsoil from A Tractor Works, which is a funny thing to sound so excited about, but, you know, I’m of an age where making the house looks good is kind of important to me. So, yeah, that five yards, we were able to fill in around the house. I dug out some lava rocks that were on the house. You know, so the dirt was actually below the stucco. It looked really bad, and ordered up from them. They were professional as always. I would definitely recommend them, definitely a great company in St. Petersburg. I’ve dealt with them five or six times, and always had a good experience. So if you need some landscaping stuff except for sod, they don’t have sod.

But, you know, if you need some landscapes supplies,  some fill dirt, some mulch, some stuff like that, definitely give them a call. And I’d also like to thank my dad for coming out and helping me spread that five yards around. It looked pretty daunting when it was just sitting there in the driveway, so thank you. Thank you, pap’s.


Segment 4 – Jungle Survival

Segment four, jungle survival. So this one’s was pretty quick, but it might save your life if you’re chasing after Tarzan in the Congo or maybe the rainforest or something. And if you slice open a piece of skin on your arm and you need some sutures and you don’t have a needle and thread, find your nearest army ant pile and pick up a couple. And whenever they pinch, they pinch and they hold, so you can actually use them as sutures to close the wound, which is pretty creepy, to be honest. I think one of the books I read on this actually said to tear the head off and they will stay closed. You might have to experiment. I know that isn’t at the top your list of things you wanna do, but just so you know it might save your life one day.

If you are thinking about buying, moving, or selling a home, let’s talk. I love to help you find your own great place in Tampa Bay. Give me a call at 727-300-2111, or you can send me an email at kyle@sassergroup.com. K as in Kentucky, Y as in yahoo, L as in loco, E as in evil, at S as in saxophone, A as in axmen, S as in swag, S as in spud, E as in evil, R as in risky, group.com. And you can join us on social media. Easiest way to find us on the web is to go to our website at greatthingstb.com. That’s G-R-E-A-T-T-H-I-N-G-S-T-B dot com, and click on our get social link.

We’d love for you to join our discussion group. You can get on there and talk about your favorite restaurants, throw some ideas around, and ask about, you know, whatever you’re looking for. And again, I’d like to remind you of the contest challenge for this week. You can win a $25 gift card to Red Mesa Group of restaurants, which is Red Mesa on 4th Street, Red Mesa Cantina, which is downtown, and then Red Mesa Mercado which is out in the edge of district.

So you can find details for that contest on our Facebook page, our Instagram page, on our website just go there. It’s gonna be front and center. If you like show notes, transcripts or additional information, you can find all that at our website GreatThingsTB.com. And we thrive off your comments like, shares questions etc. So please come and interact and send us messages even if it’s only to ask where the wildest winery in Waimauma is. Another great thing about Tampa Bay that is a good place to go ride a motorcycle but that is for a future. So thanks for listening and I’ll see you next time.

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Episode 3 – Don’t Pass on Pass-A-Grille

Episode 3

Don't Pass on Pass-A-Grille

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In Episode 3 you will learn how to have a great day at Pass-A-Grille beach.  We also review a great seafood restaurant at Selene on St Pete Beach.

Want to hear someone wax nostalgic about the Hospitality House at Busch Gardens, or the travesty of the tree removal at Kiley Park in Tampa?  We also feature some listener nostalgia, including some that you wouldn’t want your mother to know about!

A Great Day at Pass-A-Grille Beach

Selene Restaurant

  • Selene Restaurant

    4945 Gulf Blvd,  St Pete Beach FL 33706

    • Lobster Linguini is amazingly prepared.
    • Shrimp + Scallops Risotto
    • Melted Chocolate Sponge Deliciousness

    www.selenerestaurant.com

    (727) 317-2064

Things You Don't Need To Know Until You Do

Beware the horse with his ears pinned back!

Nostalgia Wax

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Welcome to Great Things Tampa Bay, the podcast about great eats, great places, and great people in the greater Tampa Bay Area. I’m your host Kyle Sasser, a Tampa Bay native, and a realtor.

Thank you for inviting me along on your commute to work. Maybe you’re out doing some yard work, and I wanna thank you for taking the time to put me in your ear. It means a lot to me and I appreciate each and every listener.

Today is April 5th, 2017. And in this episode, we cover how to have a great day at Pass-a-Grille Beach. I also ask what spots in the area you might miss, maybe your favorite restaurant’s closed or other such thing. And we also talk about the Horsemen of Apocalypse, riding across the United States of America. So stay tuned and remember that we wanna interact with you, our listeners. Easiest way to find us online is at our website greatthingstb.com. That’s G-R-E-A-T-T-H-I-N-G-S-T-B dot com. And from there, you will see a link to all of our various social profiles. So we are on Instagram and Facebook. And recently we’ve opened a Twitter account. So that’s definitely the best way to stay in contact with us.

We would love to hear about your favorite spots. You’re welcome to ask us for recommendations, or you can just say hi and, you know, tell us how much you like or dislike the program.

Segment one, Pass-A-Grille. So this past weekend the wife and I, we took a much needed few days off. She took more than I did but yeah. She had four days off, and I just had the weekend. But we decided to make something a little special, do something a little out of the ordinary. If you’ve lived in the Tampa Bay Area for any amount of time, you find something strange starts to happen, and that is that you stop going to the beach. It’s amazing how many people have lived here and go months, years without going to the beach, and it’s one of our primary defining features. And we have people come from all over the world to come here to see our great beaches here and most of us just, you know, don’t take the time to get out there and enjoy them. You know, honestly, they’re beautiful. They’re some of the best beaches in the world.

So with that mind, we set about having a great time on Pass-A-Grille and St. Pete Beach. So I wanted to share that with you, and you are welcome to duplicate this, mix it up a little bit. We’re gonna recommend some foods, some spots, and absolute must avoid if you value a good time.

So without further ado. So Pass-A-Grille Beach, if you’re not aware, is just South of St. Pete Beach. If you head the South on 275 from St. Petersburg, it is the last exit before you get to Skyway. It will have, you know, their signs there so St. Pete Beach. You get off there and you come around the left, go through a toll plaza, go through Tierra Verde, which is a great place, and beautiful houses and condos there, a golf course. You’ll go over a large bridge, and you will see the large pink Don CeSar which as my wife described it looks like a large pink sand castle. And I believe that was the actual look they were going for. So you’ll get to that intersection. You’ll take a left. You will go under the Don CeSar parking bridge valet thing, go under that. So keep going straight under the parking garage / valet bridge at the Don CeSar and continue heading south. This road is currently under construction so keep that in mind. The detours get a little funky. But keep making your way south. You’ll eventually get to Pass-A-Grille. And the way Pass-A-Grille is set up is there are some shops and restaurants and things like that that look directly across some diagonal parking spots and out towards the beach. And it is on the gulf side. So there is an intercostal waterway where you can also park and, you know, fish, maybe take your dog for a walk, and all that stuff. You know, there’s no dogs allowed on the beach proper. But if you continue over to the gulf side then you’ll see all the shops and all that stuff. So the secret is you have to get there early. And by early definitely 100% before 10 and preferably before 9 plus it’s a lot cooler. Everyone knows that it gets extremely hot at the beach in Florida especially in the summertime, so get there early.

We went for breakfast, and there are a few options. Seahorse is a great recommendation. But we decided to go with Hurricane. It is directly across from the beach. You have a view at the dunes and the beach. And it was a little bit more of the feel that we were looking for since we hadn’t been at the beach for quite some time. The reviews and everything has also said that the Seahorse is a great choice and they have some stupendous food there. And Hurricane is…they also have some good food, but Seahorse is a little bit more on the foodie side I think if you’d wanna say that.

So we went to Hurricane. I had the biscuits and gravy with sausage, and the wife had the shrimp and grits. It was absolutely delicious. I can’t say that it’s mind-blowing. If it wasn’t for the view, it would definitely be mid-tier, like I wouldn’t tell help people to go out of their way to go there, but if it’s what you’re looking for then it’s good. But with the view and the Morning Sun, it was a great experience. The coffee was delicious which to me is rare. I drink my coffee black and usually, it is bitter as hell in most places. But this was actually nice. It was actually nicely brewed, and I was able to drink it black which is surprising, to be honest. So as far as the food goes, the gravy was amazing. It was a white gravy with sausage in it. It was delicious. I also got two sausage patties which were a little on the overdone side but were still edible and delicious, and hit just the spot. I was pretty hungry that morning, so I was a little more forgiving than usual. But it was delicious. The wife’s shrimp and grits were also cooked very well and delicious. We both ate everything that was on our plates so can’t complain too much there.

So after eating and leaving Hurricanes, we went over to the actual beach. They have a little beach house/changing room/bar and grill area. And they had a little art festival, arts and crafts things going on with a few booths set up, maybe, I don’t know, maybe 10 booths. So we went over there to check it out. And they have been typical fair, you know, the wood carved pelicans, the dried starfish ornaments, and headbands. You know, that sort of typical beach craft fair stuff. But we did find this amazing gentleman whose name slips my mind. I have the business card at home. But I’ll basically just call him butterfly creations or the butterfly guy. And basically, what they do is, they take all of the beautiful iridescent blue, green, red yellow, all the colors of the rainbow. They take those butterflies that are farmed all around the world, and they take them and then mount them in art installations inside of clear boxes. So, some of these boxes are very small. You know, maybe six by six for a single butterfly. And we went for…but these were so amazing that we had to go for the big guy. And it has about 25 butterflies in front of it. It is extremely tall. The case is very well made, and it is arranged almost like a rainbow, where there’s like three or four red ones together, three or four yellow ones together, three or four blue ones together. Indigo isn’t really a color of the rainbow. Mr. Isaac Newton, so that one’s not there. But there’s a green, absolutely amazing. And we couldn’t leave without it. It looked great. So if you’re there and art show is going on, definitely stop by over there. They usually have some really cool stuff.

So if you’d like more information on the butterfly guy, we are probably going to be featuring him on a future episode. It was so unique. I hadn’t seen anything like it before. We will be including that on the show notes. So please go to our website if you’d like a link to them.

After going through the Art Fair, we went and actually set up on the beach proper, and had umbrellas, chairs, etc., etc. And after a little while, we decided to get up and walk around for a little while. And that is where we get to the things to avoid on Pass-A-Grille. So my wife wandered off to look at some booze. And I was there at the…They have like a grill and refreshments placed there. And I was looking and lo and behold they had daiquiris, pina coladas, and all that good stuff.

Honestly, you would be better off taking your eight dollars, walking to the edge of the water and throwing your eight dollars into the Gulf of Mexico. So the drinks they make there…now, they have beer, and beer…can’t really mess it up. You know what you’re getting. They also have wine and champagne. Mimosas, I think those are also pretty easy to swing. You know, you kind of know what you’re expecting. You know what you’re gonna get, no surprises there, no surprises there.

This place though, when they make their daiquiris, they make it out of a process wine that gets to like 20% alcohol, and it is horrible. It actually made my wife physically ill. And if you’re trying to imagine the taste of what exactly this could taste like, think about making a strawberry daiquiri which is supposed to be kind of sweet, you know, like fruity and beachy, like that kind of feel. But imagine it tastes more like the eight-dollar cooking wine that you get at the grocery store with that real, oh, you know, just like you wanna…your tongue…the taste just sticks to your tongue. It’s ugh. So stay away from the mixed drinks there. They do have a disclaimer on the board that said, you know, that their drinks are made from a process wine. And I was naïve. I thought, “Well, that’s interesting. You know, it must be good if they’re selling it.” And I was sadly mistaken. So, yeah, so avoid that. If you’re looking for that sort of thing just get a beer or a mimosa, something like that.

So we hung out there for another few hours and, you know, had a great time. The beach is always lovely, very relaxing, clears your thoughts. It does get crowded so be sure to pick your spot there early. And it’s really all about…Pass-A-Grille is really all about getting there early and positioning. If you can get there during the week, of course, the job is a lot easier. It is not nearly as crowded during the week. But if you’re a hard-working soul and the weekends are your only time then just keep in mind. You wanna get out there early.

After we went to Pass-A-Grille, we wanted to do dinner. So we drove home to shower, change, get ready, and all that stuff and then we went back to St. Pete Beach and ate at Selene which is north of the Don CeSar. It’s kind of between Sirata and TradeWinds. So just south of St. Pete Beach proper and wasn’t really sure what to expect. I hadn’t heard much about it. My wife did have some information on it, and she really wanted to go. And so, we went.

We go inside. The decor is very, very cool. So my wife had had a little information about the area, and she kind of knew what she wanted to order as soon as we get in there. So we get in and order up, and she gets the most amazing looking lobster linguini, just the way it was prepared. It came with the lobster shell arranged on top of it. It was cooked to absolute perfection. The sauce that it was cooked in was nearly perfectly balanced. The pasta was amazingly well done. And she and I both agreed that it was some of the best seafood that we have had.

Now, with that, let me give a little description of my seafood classifications. So I have what I call real seafood, which is seafood that is prepared with…you know, like bras [SP], grilled, prepared sort of like by…I don’t wanna say like by an actual chef because that sounds horrible but, you know, like it has like a recipe to it, and there’s a few more flavors going on than just the seafood. Then I have on the other side what I like to call “easy seafood” which is not easy to do well by any stretch of the imagination. Just it’s what I have typically run into in the area through my years here. And this would be, you know, your fried shrimp, your grouper sandwiches, that sort of fair.

So this is definitely on the recipe side of seafood. And just the blend and balance and the ingredients, the taste. It was great. It was great. And we took it home, and it was still delicious the next day. And we can’t wait to go back to get that again. I had the shrimp and scallops risotto which was prepared to perfection. The scallops were perfectly seared and cooked, and the shrimp also were…you know, they pulled them right at the perfect time, excellently prepared. The risotto was great but did not compare in any fashion to the lobster risotto. So we also had a glass of rosé which was good. You know, I’m not really gonna get into big of a thing on labels and all that stuff. But it was great. It was chilled. It went well with the meal. And at the end, of course, with my sweet tooth had to try desserts. And they had a chocolate, of course. I mean, you know, I’m not gonna go for anything else. They had a chocolates… basically, it was a chocolate lava cake. You can call it. I mean if you look on the menu, you can see it. And this one was done a little differently than usual. Most lava…and it wasn’t called a lava cake. And I’m sure they’re getting mad about this. But, you know, let’s be real. It was a chocolate sponge thing with melted chocolate in the middle of it. So this one was done a little bit differently than usual than most of the lava cakes you will have. It did not concentrate so much on the cake part. It was actually more of a really dense…the sponge was really, really dense, and the star of the show was really the melted chocolate on the inside which was stupendous. But personally, I guess I love my gluten or something. I wish the cake was a little bit thicker. And this was a little too, I wanna say chewy, but it’s not like it was tough. It was unexpected, unique definitely and definitely worth to order if you love chocolate, just the sheer amount of melted chocolate inside of it was worth the price of admission.

So, we will absolutely be back to Selene. It was delicious. We’ll probably be back to Hurricanes as well. The location is unsurpassed. They also have upstairs there, so you can sit up there and get you some drinks or some breakfast or some seafood. And it was a great time. And I would like to invite you to duplicate our day.

Segment two, let’s get personal. So I’ve been thinking the past week about, you know, places that’s closed. I saw something pop up on my Facebook feed with Fuma Bella, which is this little hole in the wall in Ybor city, and they posted that basically, they will be closing soon like their lease is up or they’re selling. Something’s happening or they’re moving on and, you know, it hit me a little close to home because that is the first place where I had a cocktail out and about in the world. So, it is kind of special to me. With that said, you can really fit only about 10 people in the place, like its small. But this got me to thinking about some of the other things in Tampa Bay that have closed or moved on. And I figured I’d put it out to you all. And I have actually asked around in the local Reddits for St. Pete-Clearwater in Tampa Bay. You know, like what people miss that’s closed recently. One gentleman said that he misses Ye Olde Tea Shoppe up in Temple Terrace, and apparently, that was a delicious sandwich shop up there that had great, great stuff and kind of sad I missed that. It sounded stupendous. I did ask the person if Dunderbak’s was comparable, and they said that it was but not the same, of course. It never is. But Dunderbak’s has been around since the mid-’70s, so give them some respects, and they definitely deserve your business.

Me personally, some of the things that I remember that are now closed. Eastlake Square Mall which is now Net Park. It’s located over close to the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino. And it’s on a 56th Street. And like I said, it’s now a corporate center. But I remember going there. That was basically the only mall in the area close to me growing up in Plant City in the early ’80s. So we would go there. They had all the stores both Lindsay’s and all that good stuff. The one thing I remember those, they had this model train upstairs that you controlled with like a little knob. You can control how fast the train goes. And I don’t know. Just like as a five-year-old, I thought it was the most awesome thing that I’ve ever seen in my life. I always begged my parents to let me play with it. And sometimes they did. Sometimes they didn’t. I mean, you know, they were being good parents. You can’t say yes all the time. But yeah, I definitely…a lot of good memories there. And yeah, that closed down. And was empty for a while and then it got redeveloped in the Net Park which is basically corporate offices and all that good stuff.

Another thing I miss that was…It still exists, but it is much diminished is Kylie Gardens or Kylie Park which is downtown Tampa next to the Art Museum, between the Art Museum and the Beer Can Building. So, I remember it as being kind of an urban wonderland. It used to have like trees. There was like stairs you had to go up to get there from…what is that road? Ashley? Whatever the main north-south road is off of Interstate. And they used to have big trees. They provided plenty and plenty of shade. They used to have reflecting pools and water that would flow down from the amphitheater close to the river and would come all the way out to…you know, let’s just call it Ashley. I don’t remember the name of that road for some reason. So you could go in there and even though you were in the city, it would be quiet, and you can think and walk around. So of course, there was a little issue with graffiti and people sleeping in the park and stuff like that. It was quickly neglected. The pavers and everything kind of got tossed around. You know, the water features got turned off, which is understandable. It did leak into the parking garage below it. And the trees went untrimmed. And generally, it was just looking kind of sad. So it was renovated with the Riverwalk Redevelopment and all that, maybe…I don’t know. Maybe 10 years ago or something like that. They pulled all of the trees out. The water features are gone. It’s lost a lot of its pizzazz which is kind of sad because Kylie is actually a really well-renowned landscape architect. From what I remember from my research back in 2006 or ’07 when they were redoing it, he’s one of the few landscape architects that has actually had his work designated as a…you know, given like a landmark status or a special recognition. And we did honestly lose something when it was renovated. It does look great now and fits in well with the new art museum. But let me tell you. It’s definitely lost something downtown because…I used to work in the AM South Building in Tamp. I think it’s the Region’s now but it’s the tall one to the south of the Bank of America building. And on lunch breaks, I used to go downstairs, and I’d walk down to Kylie Park and walk around in the trees and just have a quiet lunch down there. And it was really enjoyable, so definitely miss that.

One of the last things I miss is Busch Gardens being Busch Gardens. So InBev sold Busch Gardens I think maybe…it’s probably maybe almost a decade now. So they sold Busch Gardens and all of the Sea World group to Blackstone which is basically like an investment group. And of course, since the Anheuser-Busch/ InBev no longer owns it, the beer definitely did not take front center anymore. You know, before then they had the hospitality house where you can go and try free beer. But my personal favorite was the adult’s safari which was always the last tour to take off, you know, out into the savannah there, Busch Gardens. So the first part of it would be a beer and cheese tasting which doesn’t sound like it would go together too well, but it was surprisingly tasty. You know, I mean, this definitely wasn’t anything crazy good. But you know, it was a nice break from the rest of the park and that madness.

After that, they would load you up on a flatbed truck, throw a cooler Anheuser-Busch’s finest products on the back with you and basically said you could have as many as you want as we go around the safari. So then you’d take off out into the savannah. And first stop, you know, you’d go around, look at all the animals. Usually, they would bring a bunch of lettuce with you, and the giraffes would come over and stick their…you know, crane their necks down to where you’re at, and you could feed them. And it was a little gross because their tongues are really long. But you know, it’s a lot of fun.

All while consuming delicious Anheuser-Bush products. And I’m sure some of you are rolling your eyes out there but I can guarantee you, it was a great time. And you would continue on around the savannah. The last major event would be to stop and look at the rhinoceros. And they would always tell the story how one the more ornery rhinoceros would come over and would kind of headbutt the truck and one time even hooked its horn under the back bumper and lifted the entire back of the truck up just like that. So thankfully that did not happen any of the times I was there. I could only imagine.

And then come around and, you know, finish your tour up. And it was a really good time, and I really miss that. So please, bring that back.

Some of the other mentions on the social media when I brought this topic up was about a water park over on US 19 next to Pam. And can’t say I ever made it there. We only went to Adventure Island, to be honest, and that was good enough for me. So If you have some fond memories of that water park, you’re not alone. And the other one was…the Tonga Lounge came up a lot which was a pretty well-known strip club. You know, I mean, that’s kind of what Tampa’s known for. So that was definitely…definitely popped up a few times. That was a little…Before my time. I mean, it’s never really been my thing but that was a little before I was of age, shall we say. But if you miss that place, you are also not alone.

Segment three, the Horsemen Ride. So this segment is a little out of the usual. It’s nothing crazy like horses biting or anything. I just wanted to give you a heads up that there is a solar eclipse this year. The solar eclipse is August 21st, 2017. And it’s really cool because it’s going all the way across the country. It is going from Salem, Oregon to Charleston, South Carolina and all points in between. So totality, which is when the sun is completely covered, is going to be around two minutes and 30 seconds at its longest. So if you’re right smack in the middle, you should have 2 minutes and 30 seconds of the Sun being covered which is crazy. If you would like to plan this trip, I would recommend doing so now. And you can do so by going to numerous websites, just a quick Google search for eclipse 2017 totality will bring up some maps, and you can pick where you’re going to go. I would tell you where I’m going to go. But I don’t want a lot of people there. But we will be, you know, like Tennessee, North Georgia, North Carolina area that we’ll try out. Some great places up there. It’s going right across Blairsville, Helen, Murphy. So if you know a great spot in those areas, go there and check it out.

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Episode 2 – Urban Refuge

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Urban Refuge

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In Episode 2 you will find one of the great neighborhoods of St Petersburg (hills and creeks!) and an interview with the owner of Urban Restaurant Group.

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Kyle: Welcome to Great Things Tampa Bay, the podcast about great eats, great places, and great people in the greater Tampa Bay area. I’m your host, Kyle Sasser, a Tampa Bay native and realtor. Thanks for inviting me along on your commute to work or putting me in your ear at the gym, it means a lot to me. I know that there are many other podcasts that you could be listening to and you have chosen this one, so you have my thanks. We wanna interact with you, our listeners. The easiest way to find us online is at our website greatthingstb.com. That’s greatthingstb.com. From there on our website, you’ll be able to find all of our podcast episodes. And also, we have a page for social connections where you can find us on all of the various social media sites. You can ask us for recommendations if you’re looking for a place to go or something to do. Maybe you always wanted to learn how to kiteboard and you’re wondering where the best place to learn to do that is. Or maybe you just wanna say hi and let us know that you are a listener and that you love the show, or that you hate the show, but either way we would like to hear from you, so please find us on the website and let us know.


Segment 1, Quiet Refuge.

So for our first episode we reviewed my favorite restaurant in the area and that was Urban Brew and BBQ. So if you have not heard that, please go back and listen. They are definitely worth the visit. This episode, I’m going to mix things up a little bit and tell you about one of my favorite neighborhoods in the Tampa Bay area. So the name of the neighborhood is Roser Park, and it is located over in St. Petersburg, Florida. So if you are in downtown St. Pete, you can head south on Fourth Street and you will take a right on Roser Park Drive. Just past 9th Avenue, south, there’s a little creek there and that is the neighborhood. It is a very small neighborhood, it’s only taking up just a few streets and a few blocks, but the impact that it has on people that visit there is exponentially greater than its geographical size. This neighborhood has something that is very rare to find in Florida, especially along the coast, and that is that the houses are actually built on hills overlooking a creek, and there are huge oak trees covering a brick-lined street. It’s absolutely amazing. It feels very quiet and serene when you’re there, and it’s an amazing, amazing place. So the houses there are generally older wood-frame houses. They were built back in the early 1900s, but it’s an absolutely beautiful street. When you’re driving down there, you are transported away, it’s almost like you’re in the mountains. It’s crazy, it’s crazy. Definitely worth the drive through.

So, let me give you a little history about Roser Park. It was one of the earliest streetcar suburbs in St. Petersburg, built directly south of downtown. There used to be a streetcar that ran there. Old Northeast was built around the similar time frame, but this one was unique because it was named after the developer, Charles Roser, who was from Ohio. The interesting tidbit about him is he made his fortune in Ohio having invented the Fig Newton, which personally, I’m a fan of. It’s not like we keep them in the house at all times. I’m not a huge raving fan, you know, like I don’t have a Fig Newton hat, but I do have a little nostalgia for them because every time we would go camping in the mountains, the two things we would always have is sugar wafers, which are those really dry sugar things which I also kinda get a nostalgic kick every time I go camping, and Fig Newtons. And it’s kind of one of those things where you have a certain thing you do and you only buy this product at that certain time, and for me that’s Fig Newtons and camping. Yeah, so Roser Park is named after Charles Roser from Ohio and he developed the Fig Newton.

The way the neighborhood is laid out is you have Booker Creek, which is a small creek that winds through the neighborhood, and then you have a little park next to that, and then there is a brick, it’s a brick street that follows the creek through the neighborhood. And then the houses are built up on a hill, to the left if you’re coming from Fourth Street. The houses are older, they’re usually relatively stately, you know, multiple stories, and the homes are so tall that you actually have to kind of crane your neck up when you’re walking along the street. It’s hard to describe how unusual it is without seeing it in person. Even the pictures don’t really do it justice. So since it’s such a small neighborhood, things do not become available very often and they are usually in high demand, so it is usually a combination of luck and timing and maybe a little bit of insider knowledge to get a home in Roser Park. So if you drive through that neighborhood and you absolutely love it and you absolutely have to live there, please send me a message and I will be sure to add you to the list to be notified whenever something becomes available there. You can do that by sending me an e-mail at kyle@sassergroup.com. That’s K-Y-L-E S-A-S-S-E-R G-R-O-U-P dot com. Roser Park is absolutely amazing, you have to drive through there and see it if you are in the area. There’s nothing like it around.


Segment 2, Urban Interview, Part 1.

So, last week I reviewed Urban Brew and BBQ, which is my favorite restaurant in the area. And I did reach out to them before I released the episode to get their thoughts, maybe a little bit of history and all that, and they were kind enough to offer their owner, whose name is Andy, for an interview. He had some really great and interesting things to say about the restaurant business and what he’s trying to do with the Urban brand. So please enjoy this interview, I believe you will find it as interesting as I did.

Kyle: All right, if you could just introduce yourself and what you do, what you own, what your businesses are.

Andy: My name is Andy Salyards and I own the Urban Restaurants Group here in St. Pete.

Kyle: Okay, and that is Urban BBQ?

Andy: Urban Brew & BBQ is the first one. Second one was Urban Comfort Restaurant and Brewery. Next one is Urban Creamery, which is down next to the state theater.

Kyle: That’s the ice cream place?

Andy: Yeah, ice cream and dessert waffles, and the next one and Urban Deli and Drafts.

Kyle: If you could just tell us where you came up with the Urban concept and just kind of what your overarching theme is.

Andy: Well, my path to get here is a pretty weird one, in that I went to the California Maritime Academy in the San Francisco Bay Area and got a degree in mechanical engineering, after that went and worked in a shipyard, went out to sea, worked mostly in the South Pacific.

Kyle: That’s pretty exciting.

Andy: It was like a different life. Came back to land and got my master’s in business, and then went and worked in Southern California, transitioned into facilities management, so I used to manage all the core houses in Los Angeles County. Then we moved out to Florida for my wife’s job and the option came up to invest in a cousin’s restaurant in California, and so I did that and that allowed me to go out there and work it and kind of see if it was something I wanted to do and thought I could do. So I researched a bunch, did a bunch of planning and figured out where if I were to have a business where I’d want it to be, so that’s what led me to this area, just because it’s a lot more independent and not really cookie-cutter, and gave it a shot. Then it hit all financial projections ahead of schedule and did way better than we thought it would. So that was not foreseen, because you know, in business school they teach you to do a projection that has the hockey stick, I don’t know if you’re familiar.

Kyle: Vaguely.

Andy: But you kind of never expect to actually achieve those projections. Those are projections you put on to convince investors you’re worth investing in. So then we saw the opportunity to do a brew pub since there’s so many breweries, but nobody offering food with their beer, and that’s what led to Comfort, and then kind of seeing where the market is going, how quickly it’s growing, and so we wanted to kind of just get footholds in places. And so we rented where Deli is way before it opened and used it for various things like storage, and then we kind of did a proof of concept with a brand called Provisions, which is still our sauce brand, where we’re gonna put all our rubs and sauces in. When Creamery came up there, we didn’t know exactly what we were gonna do with the space, but knew it was a good spot, and so we jumped on it. So now in 2017, we are at a position where we’ve been open about three and a half years and we have four locations, and so now it’s time to build an organization. So this year we are moving forward, figuring out how we make employees owners and how we introduce profit sharing and how we operate as one unit instead of four businesses separately.

Kyle: I was just gonna say, that’s a little surprising on the restaurant business side, because most …

Andy: Yeah, it is a little different. The idea of doing a restaurant group isn’t any different ,and we’re kind of getting to the point now where we’re bursting at the seams with our current processes and so we’re gonna have to, as an organization, make some changes kind of divvy up responsibilities, which is nothing new under the sun. The maybe little different thing that we’re doing is my goal is to make people that have helped grow this business into owners, but I’m also not a believer in just giving something to someone, because they don’t appreciate it as much, they don’t really protect it as much. And so how do you get someone to buy into a restaurant, especially in the restaurant industry because it’s not like everyone around here is making $100,000 a year. So you have to put capital in their pockets, and so how do you that? And so that led to the profit-sharing idea.

Kyle: I love it, I love it. Like, that’s actually awesome.

Andy: We’ll see. It looks like it’s going to work well. I’ve kind of paved the way with the lawyers and accountants and my advisers and the employees, and I think we know what we’re gonna do, and now it’s time to put in action, put everything on paper. So that should happen the next month or two. I haven’t proven it yet. We still have to…

Kyle: I understand that part too.

Andy: Hopefully we can prove that it works and that it’s worthwhile. It’s really all rooted laziness, because a lot of restauranteurs work crazy, crazy hours, and I have done that and I kind of continue to do that. I don’t wanna work that much.

Kyle: I don’t blame you.

Andy: And so if I can empower others to take more responsibilities, then I’m good with that.

Kyle: Yeah, exactly. Like, I always love…like, I’ve started up a few businesses and I always love getting it to the point where I can be like, “Let me train you how to do my job so I can go move up to the next level,” so always my favorite part. Did you have, like, a long time passion for barbecue to start this or just the…?

Andy: When it came to making the menu, I knew that I wanted to do everything from scratch. I’m kind of an idealist when it comes to that. Growing up for me, barbecue was kind of a special treat, we didn’t eat a ton of it, but it was one of those things, when I got an opportunity, then I was all over it. So when I was looking at different concepts, what I wanted to do, my cousin opened a barbecue place out in California…the California barbecue is way different than the rest of the country, is more grilling and it’s different equipment, it’s usually different wood, it’s definitely different cuts of meat. So that would not probably have done well here or it would have been a kind of a tougher road of hope.

Kyle: Yeah, having to kind of educate the public on what that is.

Andy: Right. Although we did just do a beer dinner where I did kind of a California barbecue menu and it seemed to go off pretty well. I just researched barbecue like crazy, read all kinds of books. In one day, I had ribs in Kansas City, St. Louis, and Memphis. I drove from one city to the other.

Kyle: Kind of getting both sides of that.

Andy: Yeah, and kinda looked at the different regions and the style that they’re known for and what direction I wanted to go, and me personally knowing that I’d rather have a rib that’s not been just basted in sauce…because if I wanna add sauce I’ll do it, so that’s more kind of a Memphis style. I wouldn’t say we follow Memphis flavors all the way.

Kyle: I will say, personally, that these are the best ribs I’ve ever had. And I don’t really like ribs that much, because usually I find they’re a little bland or like, and it’s not really a wet or dry thing, just I don’t like them. First time I came here with my wife, everybody was like, “Hey, you gotta try the ribs.” It was like, everybody’s telling me, so I might as well try it and…yeah, that was …

Andy: Awesome, that’s great to hear. So, I was really involved with the recipes here, but as we’ve progressed, you know, we’ve kind of stayed in the pocket of American food, so that’s where you get… The Southern Comfort food is more kind of closer to home for me. I have a set of grandparents from Arkansas, I have grandparents from Oklahoma, so that was a lot of fried chicken – that was like my birthday meal every year – fried pies, fried pork chops, collard greens.

Kyle: And I’m just gonna tell you the story. So, the first time I was here we have the ribs and we also ordered the collard greens. Like, I’m from Bilver[SP], Plant City, where the dinosaurs are, so I always try the collard greens wherever I go, and I had never had collard greens like I had here. And I actually had to ask how they were made and they explained, like, you know, taking the…

Andy: [inaudible 00:14:10] smoker and everything.

Kyle: Yes, and putting that in there, because it’s just like an explosion of smoke and spice.

Andy: I can say, because I didn’t make this recipe, these are the best collard greens I’ve ever had.

Kyle: It’s crazy, crazy, crazy. So hats off to the chef that came up with that one.

Andy: Actually, I think it’s the idea of the girlfriend of our general manager, is where all that started, and then it kind of amalgamated into something different.

Kyle: I hope you gave her a really nice present.

Andy: Yeah, yeah. And then Deli came about because I got into carrying meat. A buddy of mine here in town, made sausages with him and other stuff and kinda got interested in that because it’s just…you know, anything you buy from a store, at one point somebody made from scratch. And so when you buy a hotdog, like, people will get hotdogs [inaudible 00:14:54], but you can make that a really clean, maybe not healthy, but not-processed way.

Kyle: Now, do you use, like, what is the…

Andy: Nitrites. Yeah.

Kyle: All right, so full-on authentic, puring…

Andy: Oh yeah. When you dig into those books…I’m sure they have a bias because it’s their trade, but there’s more nitrites in a stock of celery than, like, a hotdog. And then we also started identifying what are things that we have to purchase from someone else that we can’t make. And so the two biggest ones was ice cream and bread. So that led to Creamery and Deli. Now it’s continually peeling that back, like what more can we do on our own and not have to rely on someone. I think we’re running out of stuff on the food side.

Kyle: That’s come up to my question here. So what’s next on the Urban plate?

Andy: I mean, we do have the Rays’ season coming up, we’re a vendor inside the stadium…

Kyle: Awesome.

Andy: …and I think we’re gonna be looking for more relationships like that where it’s not necessarily brick and mortar, but somewhere where we can come in and be a part of someone else’s establishment.

Kyle: So more of a getting Urban in more places?

Andy: Yeah, yeah. We built four locations in a pretty short amount of time and we built up four concepts, and we’re always gonna be tweaking these concepts. But, you know, building four concepts is different than building four locations, because at this point it’ll be like, “Yeah, we’ll start another barbecue, it’d be just no problem, we’d do that with our eyes closed. So there was a lot more work on the front end, but now we’re in a position where we can kind of identify areas of town or other towns that we wanna go into.

Kyle: Yeah, and I would think, with your shared ownership program, the additional locations would probably be, you know, a great way to…

Andy: Yes. You kind of build a black hole when you do that, you know, because everyone wants to see an opportunity. And so with that, you have to feed that, create more opportunity, how do you make this place not become stagnant, because if we just stick with four locations and then the people that are in those property-sharing positions have got cover, there’s no need to add anybody else in your property-sharing position, so then everybody down below realizes, “Okay, well there’s not really room for growth here.” We’re creating a beast here that needs to be fed, so we’re just figuring out how to feed it.

Kyle: I love it, and I will say four new concepts in, what, three years?

Andy: It’s a little aggressive.

Kyle: That’s very bold, very bold.

Andy: I moved, had a kid and we’re having the second one in June.

Kyle: Congratulations.

Andy: So we’re kind of just taking everything we can do in life at one time.

Kyle: So y’all are pretty much…so I know you said you’re from California, so you’re pretty much putting roots down here and…

Andy: Yeah, we’re not going anywhere, yeah.

Kyle: Kind of a hard thing to walk away from.

Andy: Yeah, I’m trying to convince my family to move out here right now.

Kyle: Why Florida instead of California or Colorado or…?

Andy: Well, so my wife got into a residency out here and so we had to come here. And originally it was, “Let’s do our four years and then go back,” but over time… What’s happening here in St. Pete is pretty unique. It’s a very small-town feel, it’s hard to go out and not run into somebody you know, but you still have all the amenities which you’d need in a big city, and then the opportunity here is pretty unparalleled. I’ve been able to travel a good amount and live in a couple different places. I’ve never set roots as quickly as I have here, and it’s kind of hard to walk away from.

Kyle: It’s a good place, it’s a good place. So, what would you say is your favorite part about St. Peter, Tampa Bay?

Andy: St. Pete, specifically, is the impact that one person can have. It’s still small enough where you can have your voice heard and you can make as much change, as much…compared to how much energy you wanna put into it. So if you’re really passionate about something or you wanna see something different, you have a viable chance of making that happen.

Kyle: So, thank you to Andy and the urban group for doing that interview. This is only the first part of the interview, we will be having a part 2 and maybe a part 3 further on in our podcast, so please stay tuned for that. He had a some really great ideas and just he’s doing some really impressive and unique things with the restaurant business.


Segment 3, Let’s Get Personal.

When it comes to recreation, I’m a little all over the place. I do have very wide-ranging interests. People that know me really well will tell you that I usually will focus on something for a relatively short period of time and then kinda lose interest a little bit. There’s been a few things that have held my interest, sailing in particular, but it’s tough when you get older. I’m 38. Well, not yet, I will be 38 at the end of April, and it’s tough to balance all of these recreational activities, trying to find time to do everything. I mean, you really can only pick one, maybe two at most. So I also love sailing. We own a old and small Catalina 25 with a pop top, which is kind of cool sailboat. We keep it downtown at the marina in front of the dolly[SP]. And honestly, you know, they say a boat is a hole in the water that you throw money in, and relatively true, we don’t use it nearly as much as we should. It was my first sailboat that I’ve owned, and I have learned a lot. I always recommend to start off small on that. I mean, it’s gonna cost way more money than you think it’s going to. You never really wanna start big on something like that, because you really can…you can lose a lot of money doing it. But love sailing, I’m actually gonna feature a sailing place in the near future on the podcast, I don’t wanna give too much information on that. So if you’d like to talk sailing or wanna know where to learn how to sail, please send me a message or hit me up on social media.

One of the other things I’ve started doing recently is I have started learning how to play bridge, which sounds strange I’m sure, but if I hear about something multiple times from very different sources, then I think that it’s the universe trying to tell me something and I should probably look into it. So I did hear about bridge from a few different places. I heard somebody talking about it and I heard it on a podcast and I think on a history book I was reading, it was mentioned that Eisenhower played bridge and loved the game, he was a big fan. So I was like, “All right, well, you know, I guess I’ll look into it.” So I go to a St. Pete bridge club. So it may have beginners all the way up to master class, I guess it’s called. Honestly, I’m way too early in the process to know the different levels. It’s a fascinating game, I’m really intrigued by it. It’s kind of like…it seems way more complicated and interesting than poker and chess to me. I’ve tried chess and poker, but I don’t know, they’ve never really struck too much of a chord with me. Like, for board games I would prefer Go vs. chess, and poker…I’m not really big on betting that much and just it doesn’t hold much interest to me. I know me learning bridge sounds absolutely ridiculous, but I will be sure to keep putting in some updates because it should be amusing. And everyone at the St. Pete bridge club was very nice, even though some of the players kinda raised an eyebrow at some of the plays I made, but hey, you know, that was the first time I had actually played with other people.

So, I’ve also played golf for a while. I’ve found it difficult the last few years to dedicate the time needed to play golf. It’s not that I’m a perfectionist, but I like to play at the level that I know that I can. And unfortunately with golf, I have found that to play at the level that I wanna play at, I have to practice at least two or three times a week and play once every week or two, and currently I do not have the time to do that. But that said, I am going to feature some of my favorite golf spots in future episodes, including what I call the golf Disneyland. So if you know somebody who loves golf, please subscribe so you can catch that episode. We have one of the best golf places. It’s not immediately in Tampa Bay, but it’s driving distance and it will…if you send someone who loves golf to this place, when they get back they’re gonna give you the longest, most borderline-uncomfortable hug you have ever gotten. So please subscribe so you can catch that.


Segment 4: Technology Is Scary.

Did you know that researchers now believe that flashing the peace sign when somebody’s taking your picture may leave you vulnerable to identity theft. And, basically, this comes from cell phone cameras being of such high quality nowadays that if you show the peace signs and basically show your fingerprints to the camera, that they can actually zoom in on your fingerprints, reconstruct them and then use that for biometric scans, like when you scan your fingerprint to get access to a door at work or something like that. So that’s pretty scary. Of course, though, they have a solution, so you might chalk this up as a manufactured problem, because I could not find any actual identity theft that has occurred this way. But if this is something that you are concerned about, they are manufacturing a film that you can place over your fingers so you can flash the peace sign, secure in the knowledge that nobody can steal your fingerprints. And the good thing about this film is, while it prevents cameras from being able to capture your fingerprints, it does not interfere with biometric scans, so you’re still able to get in that super secret top secret room or time clock at work.


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Episode 1 – The Good, The Bad, and The Sinful

Episode 1

The Good, The Bad and the Sinful

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Show Notes

Episode 1 covers my absolute #1 favorite restaurant in the Tampa Bay Area.

Also some background on me and the goals of this podcast, which is to introduce you to some Great Things in Tampa Bay you might not know about!

Transcript at the bottom of this page!

Urban Brew and BBQ

Urban Brew and BBQ

1939 Central Ave

St Petersburg, FL 33713

urbanbrewandbbq.com

  • Recommendations: 
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  • The Ribs
  • The Brisket
  • Collard Greens
  • The Beer
  • Skillet Ghiradelli Brownie

Let's Get Personal

Kyle Sasser, host of Great Things Tampa Bay, was born in Dover near Plant City, Florida.  He’s lived in Tampa, Lakeland and Brandon, and now resides in St Petersburg because it’s close to great restaurants and sailing.

Bijou is our 11 week old pomeranian pup.  My wife and I also have two cats, some fish, and a strong desire to find great places.

And yes, she does have an instagram.

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Transcript

Kyle: Hello and welcome to the great things Tampa Bay podcast. The podcast of about eats, great places, and great people in the greater Tampa Bay area. I’m your host Kyle Sasser, a Tampa Bay native, and a Realtor. Make sure you listen close because we’ve got a great spot for you to go to replenish those calories.

Whether you’re getting swallowed at the gym. Or I don’t know, walking around the mall, buying a bunch of clothes or maybe you’re just chasing kids or dogs around. Or maybe you’re sitting at home in front of your computer maybe doing some work and yeah, lunch time’s coming up.


Segment 1: ‘The Good, the Bad and the Sinful.’

So, since this is the first episode I figured that it’s only appropriate to start off with my absolute favorite restaurant in the Tampa Bay area. This is my go-to place, I’ve never had anything bad there. The restaurant is Urban Brew and BBQ. It’s located at 1939, Central Avenue in the central business district in St.Petersburg, Florida. Roughly it’s on Central if you’re coming from downtown St. Petersburg, it’s on Central just before Haslam’s on the right.

So, I know what you’re thinking, there’s a bunch of barbecue restaurants around, you know, what makes this place special? And to answer that I like to call this segment ‘The good, the bad and the sinful.’ So yeah, I’ve been listening to some Marty Robbins, Gunslinger Ballads, so, you know, that’s kind of the inspiration for this week’s review segment.

So, the good is brisket and ribs and beer, oh my. There are quite a few barbecue spots around, Urban BBQ their brisket is absolutely amazing, it’s fork tender, it practically falls apart in your mouth, absolutely delicious.

The sauces that you apply are amazing like each one is perfectly balanced, it’s not too sweet, not too tangy. And they do have a few to choose from so make sure to explore all those options. Brisket is one of those things that, you know, it is challenging to cook but to be honest, it doesn’t seem like there’s a lot of difference between the good brisket around.

I mean, there is some bad briskets at some of the barbecue joints to be named, but if you can find a good brisket, you know, like there’s some subtle differences and Urban definitely hits all of those notes if you’re a big brisket fan. But it’s not going to change your life or your worldview on brisket. But it is excellent and absolutely recommend it.

So now the ribs, now I have, to be honest I am not a big rib guy. It’s not even a wet or a dry thing, which I’m not going to get into here. Just as a whole, I generally just don’t like ribs. I find that the flavor isn’t there for me and like it’s quite a bit of work to get to the meat. It’s a messy proposition which I’m typically okay with or, you know, doesn’t bother me. But I just don’t feel that the reward is there.

And I know some people love them, and they absolutely won’t get anything else other than ribs, but to me, I usually swing more towards the brisket, pulled pork and sausage if they have that. So, all that disclaimer said, the ribs at Urban BBQ are absolutely mind blowing, and you would be tremendously foolish if you don’t order them.

It was the first dish that I ordered my first time at Urban BBQ, and I looked at my wife, and I said I think these might just be the best ribs I’ve ever had in my entire life. And just the taste of these ribs explains why so many people like rib so much. Like if every rib tasted like these ribs then I would be a rib guy, but sadly that’s usually not the case. So absolutely, absolutely get the ribs.

So the last part of the good, the beer. So, kind of like the ribs, I will drink craft beers, I am not a connoisseur or a beer head or anything like that. It does not get me excited to go try craft beers. I just I don’t know… I like beer, don’t get me wrong but I don’t try to pursue the new whatever, hog head, ale fish, IPA, brewed with pumpkin hops or whatever the new thing is. But Urban BBQ does have a tremendous selection of beers and each one of them pairs very well with the barbecue. And if you ever have any questions, the staff there is more than helpful. They’ve always given me great recommendations. I can’t say enough good things about them.

All right, so I know what you’re thinking, and you’re thinking, “Well, okay, so the meats are awesome and beers’ great,” kind of like pizza, it’s kind of hard to have a bad beer, “what about the sides?” Because the truth is most barbecue places, they will either be great at meat, the smug master, pit boss or in every term himself. It’s usually they’re really good at smoking meat, or he’s really good with sides.

The good news at Urban BBQ is they are excellent at both. I’ve had most of the sides available on the menu there, and they are all crazy good. As many of them, you can try do so but there is one in particular that I do recommend, and that is the collard greens.

So, I know what you’re thinking, and I am from Florida here, I grew up with collard greens, and I understand where you’re coming from. When I was little, I was not so much of a fan to them whenever. I got into my teenage years, they grew me a little bit more, and now I absolutely love them, but they’re definitely an acquired taste. So, I understand that aspect of it, but these collard greens are just like, I don’t know, my dad would say they will ‘swallow your tongue delicious.’ So when you get them, they are like a like a broad leaf collard green. Sometimes when you get them and they’re boiled, they kind of boil down a little bit, they come a little bit more stringy. These are definitely not that, these are big broad leave collard grains and basically you put your fork in the collard greens you pick it up, you know, the juice kind of drips off of it, and you put it in your mouth, and it is an absolutely explosion of smoke flavor in your mouth.

So, the first time that I tried these greens with my wife, the same trip that we had the ribs, I had to ask how exactly these greens were made. And apparently what they do is they start smoking the meats early in the morning so it’s ready for the day’s business, and all of the drippings and fat and everything that drips off of the briskets and all that good stuff that collects at the bottom of the smoker they scrape all of that off and put that in the collard grains and then that’s how they cook the collard grains. So yeah, I mean most people know that you put a ham hock in there but with this, they put the actual like smoked drippings in there, and man is it good.

All right so that’s the good. Moving on to the bad. This bad is not so bad as long as you’re aware of it beforehand it has improved quite a bit here in the last year, six months or something like that. But there was limited seating when they first opened. So it is in the central business district and anyone who’s been down there knows, that the shops are generally small, it’s just the nature of the area. So when they opened, they had the bar area which you could sit at any barbecue at. Few high tops around the outside and then they had an outside seating with picnic tables in the back. They have since added on an additional dining area in the space next door, so seating honestly is no longer a problem.

If you’re thinking about sitting outside, though, they did use to have the sun sail screens suspended over which supplied shade, but the last time that I was there which was the end of February 2017, the sails were down and even though it was February, I mean it’s Florida, we got sunshine so it got a little toasty. I was in jeans, and yeah, I was feeling the heat so to speak, but it was still bearable, but just keep that in mind when you go. But like I said if it is warm and sunny outside and you’re hesitant then they do have plenty of space inside for you to sit.

And now my favorite part, the sinful. At least in my experience, good desserts are pretty hard to find at barbecue places. I mean, yeah I know some places have some, but it’s not really the main focus. The meats and maybe the sides are the focus when you go to a barbecue place, but it wouldn’t be my number one if it didn’t have an amazing dessert.

So, Urban BBQ has on their dessert menu a skillet Ghirardelli brownie and what they do is they take a small cast iron skillet, smaller than personal pan pizza size. Like something that you’d find in the gift shop if Lodge had a gift shop which I don’t know, maybe they do, I’ve never been to their manufacturing plant.

So anyway they take a small personal size cast iron skillet, they make a Ghirardelli chocolate brownie inside of it and then they put vanilla ice cream on top of that. And I know that it sounds very similar to a chocolate lava cake, but it is not a cake, it’s a brownie, so it’s a lot more denser than a cake. The cast iron also, you know, it has a lot of heat retention, so it keeps it keeps the heat, and it keeps the brownie at the right temperature even with the ice cream.

So it is amazingly delicious, you definitely need to set aside a few hours afterwards so you can fall asleep just from the sheer amount of calories and deliciousness you’ve just consumed. But one hundred percent absolutely recommend it. It will change your world view, and if you don’t like chocolate then I feel I’m sorry that your life has come to that point, then you should really reevaluate your life choices.

So, I’m just kidding, of course, they do have other desserts there that are good, but the number one that I can recommend is the skillet Ghirardelli brownie. All right so that was Urban Brew and BBQ, and again they are located at 1939 Central Avenue in St Petersburg, Florida. You can find them. The website is urbanbrewandbbq.com. They’re also on Facebook and a few other social media platforms, can’t recommend them enough and enjoy.


Segment 2: Questions.

So, of course, this is our first episode, I don’t really have any questions from you so I would like to ask for you to send us your questions and you can e-mail us at hello H-E-L-L-O @greatthingstb.com. That’s hello H-E-L-L-O@greatthingstb.com. You can also ask us questions on Facebook. We do have a Facebook discussion group, and that’s a great place to interact with other like-minded individuals like yourself who are looking for great things in Tampa Bay.
And we recently had a discussion on the best breakfast spots in the area and had lots of great recommendations, Trip’s Dinner came up a lot in St. P which is my personal favorite. We also had quite a few recommendations for Three Coins and Kissin’ Cuzzins which the wife and I would love to try solely based on the name alone. We figure that a place that’s named like that has to be good otherwise, it would be out of business promptly, and for the people out in Brandon, they also had a recommendation for Recipe Box in Bloomingdale. I have never eaten there so I can’t say yea or nay but that is what came up. So please join us and us your questions.


Segment 3: Let’s Get Personal.

So this is the first episode of great things Tampa Bay podcast, so I thought I would just give a little introduction about me and myself and maybe introduce one or two of the staff on hand that helps out with the podcast.

So, my name is Kyle Sasser. I’m originally from Dover. If you’ve been down Interstate four and seen the dinosaurs on the side of the road, that’s where I grew up. And I’ve also lived in Lakeland. I lived in Tampa for quite a while, I lived in Brandon, and currently I’m over in Pinellas County, and I live in St Petersburg.

So each one of those places definitely has its pros and cons, but from my current lifestyle, St P is great for it. There’s lots of lots of great restaurants. The waterfront is right there, sailing is close at hand, yeah I love it out there.

I’m not a professional broadcaster, voiceover expert or anything like that obviously. I mean you’ve listened to the podcast so far, and I’m sure you’ve been able to deduce that, but I’m always working to improve and try to make things better. So if you hear something that you think would improve the podcast, please send me a message, an email, find us on social media, please let me know.

So another place that’s featured on this podcast are paid advertising. I don’t think we ever will do that on the podcast. If we do, I will definitely make sure to section that off and make that really apparent. But the places, the restaurants and other stuff that I’m going to be recommending to you. You know, like basically if we were friends and we met up and basically, you know, you would ask me like, “Hey, what’s, what you been up to? Or “do you happen to know a good place where I can do X, Y or Z?” This is exactly… It’s a personal recommendation from me to you. So I don’t have a degree in Tampaology and not an aspiring chef or anything like that, I just love great food and great places and great people, and I want to share that with you.

So, if you do happen to find yourself on our website, we do have a staff page, and you’re welcome to go there and take a look at our staff members. I was going to introduce one to you today. Her name is Bijou, she is our sergeant of arms, she keeps everything in line and on task. She is an 11-week old Pomeranian, chocolate colored, and she is about the most adorable thing you’ve ever seen, and we’re currently in the process of bending to her will.

So in all honesty, though we do love our animals, we have two cats and one dog. So my wife always says she wanted to live on a farm and we are well on our way. My wife and I we were recently married last year, 2016, and we took a honeymoon to Paris and, you know, lots of dreams coming true on that trip and getting married, and I love her to death. She is also on the staff page so please feel free to go there and take a look.

So let me tell you briefly about why I’m doing this podcast. So, mainly there’s three reasons. One, my wife and I we love going out and trying new restaurants, new places, going to local events, charity stuff, social gatherings. We love going to the springs, sailing, boating, you know, we love doing all these things and honestly there is so much, so many things to do around here that I don’t think you should ever be bored. There’s just, so much to do around here, and we’re always looking and searching for that, so that’s one.

The second part is we love it when people ask us for recommendations, because we go to these places and we have opinions on them, yes some we like better than others, of course, that’s just human nature. But we love sharing our experiences with other people and recommending them places and then asking them after they have gone if their experience was the same. And we love it whenever somebody goes to one of our favorite spots, and they come back to us, and they’re like, “You were absolutely right, that was mind blowing and thank you so much for the recommendation.”

And the third part is I’ve been wanting to do a podcast for a while, been kicking ideas around in my head for a year and a half and this all finally kind of jelled together. I know it sounds obvious because you’re listening to it, but there’s a lot of thought that goes into this. So that’s the three main reasons I decided to start doing a podcast.

One, the wife and I, we love going to restaurants and finding new places. Two, we love sharing experiences with people and giving our recommendations to people and then getting feedback on those recommendations. And then three, I feel that podcasting and internet video and media is definitely the way of the future and my thought that this was something that I would be able to bring value to you and help you out and maybe to introduce you to some places or some things that you might not have been aware of, but now that you do you’re like man, I cannot wait to go there and try that.


Segment 4: Things You Don’t Really Need to Know Until You Do.

You can tell a horse is angry when its ears are pinned back against its head, beware of bites.


Outro

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